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작성자: tgpumpkin 10/4/2015 2:03:45 PM
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Dear elite players, let's have a chat for a second.

Hey there, how's it going? First off, as someone who considers himself as a vet of Destiny but not an elite player, I have to say, I stand in amazement at some of the things you guys can do. Really I do. Single handedly taking down Trials while carrying 2 other people? Wow. Soloing Crota back when it was cool? Amazing. Going Chuck Norris on the game and beating it with just your fists? Unthinkable. You really do incredible things and when I'm a witness in it...it's hard sometimes to stay in the game because I want to just watch how you own Destiny like Neo owns The Matrix :) In all sincerity, it is amazing the things you do and as a veteran Destiny player who handles himself fine but isn't elite, It's a joy to watch. The thing is though, I am trying to get better too. Having a full time job and family and whatnot means I have to balance priorities out quite a bit. It's bad enough I've had one too many sleep deprived nights so I can fit everything in, but as a result I am a few steps behind you. I accept it. Thing is though, I want to be as good as you someday. I don't want to be carried...I want to learn...get better...so I can help others and maybe even someday help you. The problem is though, sometimes being elite means you lose patience with the rest of the destiny world because we're not destroying the game like you. I can imagine that can be frustrating because it slows you down. Knowing you can travel 80mphs in a game where many of the players are going 50-60 can be a strain. The thing is though, there's an awesome opportunity you have here where you can make the community better: you can teach us. you can be patient with us. You can help us see things the way you do. Doing this accomplishes several objectives. 1) you make us better so you can get things done quicker when you do need help. 2) We get better and can take on new challenges we never thought we could. 3) Most importantly the community gets friendlier because we're paying it forward...helping each other. When we don't do that.....when we say "I'm carrying the team". "You guys suck". "Get good". If you think about it...it accomplishes nothing. All it does is separate us where players call you names/expletives and you call us names as a result. The only result is a divisive community. The social experience is the heart of the Destiny universe and attitude is everything. We don't need to create lines breaking off those connections, do we? So...if you want us to 'get good'....show us. Teach us....be patient with us and, most importantly. ENCOURAGE us. That's paying it forward and that is the key to finding more like yourselves. You never know....by following that method someday we may be able to HELP you. To teach you a trick that we caught on. It's a win win. YES, it does mean we have to listen too. Not rage. Not give up. Practice. We have to do our end of the bargain. I guarantee you though there are many of us that DONT want carried. We want to accomplish. Achieve. For the record, I know many elite players who DO everything they can to help and to you I tip my hat! Thanks for helping me see things the way you do. If you don't though....all I'm doing is encouraging you to reconsider your strategy. You still are amazing and this isn't an open letter to make you feel bad...but instead to see perspective. Nothing more. I will always have your back if you ever try to find some way possible to solo Kings Raid (sorry, I can't see how though lol but I will watch). I will celebrate with you. Be in awe....and give you the props you rightly deserve. A little kindness goes a long way and helps everyone. Just something to consider. -tgpumpkin PS-if you want the backstory. just ask and I'll gladly tell it. The message here is what's most important. EDIT: just a very gracious thank you to all who responded. This community can be amazing. Even if you didn't agree I appreciate and respect your counterpoints :). Hope to see you out there
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  • I agree with what you said and now being the one who would help, now I need it the most lol

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    • I quite often help people do stuff in the game. I did many sherpa runs of VoG and Crota, even took people through Skolas. That was a pain to begin with (no hate towards the people I helped) but got a lot easier once I got the strat all figured out. I've been called really really good at PvE etc, but really all it is, is learning how to nail headshots, the best places to post up for a fight, when to pop a super, where enemies spawn from etc etc etc. this simply comes with playing the game; when I started, I struggled with the Siphon Witches. Now, I am aware that a sniper or well-timed shotty rush makes them a breeze haha. Im happy to help people out though. All I ask is calm demeanour, stay positive. Know that if I sound irritable, its directed at myself (I hold myself to high standards, especially when I know an encounter well), and above all, listen to advice. Dont be afraid to suggest stuff, but if I shoot it down, I do it due to firsthand experience of it not working; I wouldnt dismiss a suggestion out of hand. I dont call myself Elite (FU SPINDLE MISSION), whatever people think I am Im happy to help when I have the time.

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    • I love teaching new people and helping others improve in destiny. It really does bring me alot of pride knowing i have helped other players beat atheon, crota and skolas. If anyone needs help with raids even kings fall just send me a message.

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      • No why should i waste my time teaching others. If you can play online then you can also look up videos online to learn how to do it. Thats what i did. Its stupid when people say they dont know what to do. Its easy to get to 295 (which is best for the raid i know it says 290). I got to 295 by grinding strikes. I expect the same from everyone else. Carry your own damn weight.

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        • I have only been playing this style of gaming for eight months, it has all been Destiny. Being a married dad of four I understand time constraints. Everyone has time constraints and everyone's time is just as valuable as the next person's. When another Guardian is helping me whether we complete the task or if they have to leave before the task is done I thank them for their time and for helping me out. And I do the best that I can helping other guardians out as well. But the one thing that no one should have to deal with is someone making ignorant or rude comments towards them about their level of play or ability. You would be better served to say sorry I couldn't get you through this but there are other things I would like to accomplish with my remaining time. Keep working at it and maybe we can hook up again later. Fortunately most guardians that I have had the pleasure of running a raid, strike or any other number of activities in this game, have been more than helpful and great people to talk to. But there are some who need to learn how to properly interact with other people. I think that is what this post is truly getting at. The following words should be sang to Aretha Franklin - Respect. R-E-S-P-E-C-T respect other players on Destiny. Respect the game. Respect others. Respect yourself.

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          • Great post.

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          • Can someone summarize this?

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            • There's paragraphs and sentence structure, proper grammar. Still don't want to read it.

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              • I like your thinking sir. And I completely agree. Thanks for mature post.

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              • Yeah I have no problem helping people through raids. My first time beating oryx was me and a friend and 4 randoms. One of them have never done the raid before. But I lead them to victory. Cause I'm awesome.

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              • Great post, more people should have your perspective!

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              • 작성자: legi0n47x 10/2/2015 4:34:13 PM
                Under a proper Sherpa and a group that shuts the -blam!- up so they can explain new/lower light players should be fine. The problem lies in that too many don't listen and cause repeated wipes. I would say that outside of people that I know when we pull randoms, especially lower level ones, only about a third of them are decent and listen. Keep trying and you'll get there eventually. Oh and never be scarred to ask a question if you don't understand.

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              • 작성자: AdunSaveMe 10/2/2015 4:29:22 PM
                So.. does "tl;dr - give people advice instead of shitting on people" sound accurate?

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              • 99% of the time I go looking for help on lfg I find great people. In fact I can't recall any times where people haven't been generally thankful or helpful. I find it strange the forum isn't really like this.

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                • If you insist

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                • We are always looking for mature players to get extra runs on nightfalls, raids, quests etc If anyone needs a helping hand or just wants to be part of a community that wants to help others then feel free to drop by our clan page[url] https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/1028672[/url] We are not elite but have fun trying and most of the time we succeed with a little patience. I also help viewers over on Twitch 2-3 times a week if you ever need a helping hand especially on reset day. This goes out to everyone [url]http://www.twitch.tv/callmemissk/profile[/url] We also have a website, which is currently being updated and so is not so active right now http://ulimatewildcards.clanwebsite.com/ Or just add a few of us over on XB1 Call me miss k. I Mo1e I or Ixchris uk we will happily help you guys in whatever way we can without it being a nightmare........... its always fun

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                • Awesome post. I agree wholeheartedly.

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                • I'm somewhere between a Veteran and Elite. idk. I'll get back to you by the 18th

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                • This is a nice message. \|--|/

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                • You forgot the too TL;DR But make the choice man. Continue sleep deprived nights to get better, or get your rest and enjoy your family. I had the same situation going year one. Lost my girlfriend and all This year I chose my family, rest, and personal projects. So I just accept that I won't be elite soon. Now my situation is different. Everything left for me to do on Destiny requires a team. Which I don't have. No! Not for one little quest will I go to lfg. So I just chose to stop, don't stress on this game, and enjoy my one year old and seven year old.

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                  • tl;dr

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                  • Destiny players, please dont become cod players.

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                    • 작성자: lKenzor 10/2/2015 3:23:39 PM
                      I have to say posts like this really warm my heart, it's so easy to assume everyone in this community thinks they are a badass when the reality is there are honest people like yourself who accept they need some guidance and ask for it in a respectable way. I am in no way the best player in Destiny but I do consider myself good at most aspects of the game. I used to solo Crota 3x a week, solo Templar/Atheon, solo PoE and have gone flawless ToO a few times. I was 3 weeks late on buying TTK due to having no internet but if you have any questions about anything please just ask, Im happy to help you wherever I can

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                    • 작성자: TheGodAmongMen 10/2/2015 3:33:07 PM
                      The problem is, when I have time sure I will help people. but I have a family and work full time, I don't want to spend 8 hours teaching someone how to raid ever time I raid... I want it to take no longer than 2 hours. This is what decides who gets invited and who doesn't. (that being said, we don't put 100 stipulations, just the basics like "need raid knowledge" "good sniper or MG" 295+ light though depending on our team we will let lower lights in.)

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                    • I like this because I remember when I soled Croat hard for the first time it was amazing then I realized how many of my friends didn't have gear yet so I spent a lot of time getting them specific gear it was fun I also did raids with people who have never done crota before and they were like lvl 28-30 it was amazingly fun and I enjoyed it when people who thought they were better than everyone else showed up even if it was true if they were being a jackass then I just kicked them because I didn't want negativity and I let another random join or just one of my friends who also knew the raid on my regular raid team join In other words I love destiny for the aspect of community and people should always be respectful because even if you know how to do things many someone's random idea might not be so random after all and might be just what you need. Thanks for reading my rambling

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                    • When I'm a high enough level I hope I'll have someone like u on my fireteam in the raid

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