It's amazing how many people think getting this gun is hard. The first time I tried I was solo and got him down to a hair of health, that was before I knew you had to clear all the smaller enemies as well. The second time I got two randoms from the recruitment section and considering my mic recently broke we all ran it without talking to each other. We screwed up the first time but the second time we did it super easy. Anybody who has trouble with this yet has completed the raid is a TERRIBLE player. Sure anyone can beat the raid when they have 5 others they always play with and all have mics and are all familiar with each other. But that means nothing, a measure of a good player is how well they play under difficult circumstances with completely random people on a whim. Even court of oryx tier 3 last week! I even did that for the first time with two other randoms without being in a party and we were all under 300. My point is if you can do the raid yet you can't do this EXTREMELY simple task then you're a shiiiiiiit player. End of story. Edit: maybe I should clarify some stuff, I'm mostly calling out the players that are elitist dbags that have such high standards for raids. Cause when I see them say they have trouble on this mission yet boast about how easy the raid was cause they only play with people with all high weapons and levels it's ridiculous. I did the black spindle with two randoms that I clearly had to carry and they had crap gear and levels but I didn't care cause I'm not one of those losers that try to make group destiny activities more exclusive then the bohemian club. [spoiler]one two three how many salty elitists will I see lololol[/spoiler]