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작성자: Onyx
10/1/2015 2:01:49 PM
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Easy way for hunters to counter Hammer of sol
Arcite-99 informed me that the titans newest 'abilities' are causing some trouble on the playing fields.
I looked further into the problem and realized very soon that our fellow hunters are having the most trouble, or are the angriest about it. Call it how you want guardian.
Did you forget about that new void bow you were granted with? Looking at it it seems to be a support class to slay darkness like the ward of dawn. But it can also be used to counter other supers very easy!
[( WARNING, BREAKING OUT OF ROLE. HEAVY AMM..UHH I MEAN TUTORIAL INBOUND)]
For this strat you need to have these perks active:
[b]Predator, Black hole[/b]
[b]1.[/b] So everytime you hear that sound sunbreakers make when they activate (hammers smashing on steel) you first back up a little bit. Just run to the next corner or room to be sure.
[b]2.[/b] Now wait and keep looking at the killfeed bottom left. As soon as you see the hammer symbol pop up you look around and search the area for the skull symbol (fallen team mates). As soon as you spot the symbol you have to decide if thats your sunbreaker. You need a little practice and luck for that.
[b]3.[/b] If you are positive that you spotted the sunbreaker correctly just fire your shadowshot into the ground. Now back up a little bit again. But stay near to your teather. Crouch so that said sunbreaker won't see you directly.
[b]4.[/b] Wait for the sunbreaker to run past the teather. As soon as that happends he will get teathered and his super will be shut down immediatly. Now just turn the corner and shoot the guy.
[b]Note:[/b] If you just want to escape without using your super just switch to "snare" and "lockdown". Throw the smoke behind you (the path the sunbreaker will use to WRECK you). As soon as he runs past the smoke he will activate it like a mine. It will slow him down. Lockdown makes sure the smoke lasts long enough for you to escape.
If you wonder if titans will notice your shadowshot, trust me most won't. They will just run into their death. The huge amount of damage resistance they have will make them feel so save they won't care about anything.
So that's it hunters. Now show these guys that you're not done with 'em yet! Go in there and proof your worth!
[b]AND THEN DO IT AGAIN![/b]
[i]practice in mayhem recommended[/i]
[spoiler]this post is not about my stats by any means. If you decide to look them up that is your decision. I did not post here so that people look them up. I want to help struggling people. Also, the complaining about sunbreaker started to annoy me, if you know what i'm saying. [/spoiler]
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3 답변Yeah hunters are just whining because they're used to being spoiled with heavy offensive classes. Now that titans have one too, they just whine and refuse to use the tools that nightstalker provides for them. How many times have we been killed by your 4 shot golden gun or infinite arc blade with blink.
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3 답변If I see a Hammer super being used I just run. Bolt it the hell out of there if I don't have my bow. Usually works actually XD
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Yeah.. I use Gunslinger for PvP; all I do is throw a grenade/knife or both depending on what is charged and then proceed to haul ass in the opposite direction, round as many corners as I can to block his field of view. The tick damage from incendiary knife/incendiary grenade won't do much to them because armor, but their super runs out pretty quickly usually, since the tards like to spam their hammers, and the tiny amount of shields that did shed away means I have a slight advantage once the titan is done throwing his tantrum.
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4 답변[quote][quote]Originally posted by mongrelsagdow14: [quote]Honestly got tired of the complaint threads so I decided to take 2 friends into rumble to test. I first tested the defense both with max armor and with the extra armor you can get with a certain chest piece when using a solar based subclass. results: I had 2 snipers used. stillpeircer and black spindle. still has impact of 31 which covers 1000 yard stare and LDR. black spindle has 37 which covers black hammer and eferdeets spear. the 004 sniper was not used but has an impact of 34. snipers were used at point blank so no damage drop off was present. With max armor the 31 impact snipers leave me with a tiny sliver of health. which means the 34 impact sniper and 37 impact snipers will one shot me. With additional armor the 37 sniper one shot me. which means 3 snipers can currently one shot headshot the sunbreaker when they have the most armor possible. the 34 might be able to do it. and any sniper with a damage proc including the 31 snipers will be able to one shot. Next I tested golden gun. The result was the same both times. Point blank a golden gun will not one shot the sunbreaker. but they both leave you with a sliver of health. so if the sunbreaker has literally taken any damage at all and gets hit by golden gun they will die. It's important to note that you have to fully spec into armor in order to live from golden gun. If you don't take max armor golden gun will one shot you. Lastly I tested the damage of the hammer on direct impacts. To confirm my idea that it has the same damage model of arc blade swipes. When running max armor on blade dancer with the extra armor you take 2 hammers to kill. you're left with half of your red health bar. then I tested it against a person with max armor on storm trance but no extra armor and got the same result. to me this means it's got the same damage of the arc blade melee. If hammer of sol does any extra damage at all its so small that it's not going to matter in 90% of situations. Conclusion: the sunbreaker mid super naturally has a slight armor advantage. and it's honestly so slight it doesn't matter in my opinion. you have potentially 4 snipers with out any special perk roll that can one shot head shot. and if you are using golden gun all you have to do is hit them with anything like a nade or knife and then golden gun and they are dead. I understand people don't like that the sunbreaker can even survive it at all. However they are the tank class and all titan sub classes can tank a golden gun. so it's consistent. and hammer of sol has average damage. needing 2 hammers to kill a majority of people mid super. of course if the target has low armor it's a one hit. But everyone is always telling me max armor is the way to go in crucible. so if you aren't running it you willingly accept the concequences. end of story. I didn't test all sub classes on damage with the hammer because the 2 I did test with different situations yielded the same results. Though if someone proves me wrong with footage and explains the situation i'll retract my statement. I also didn't test sword swings or rockets. Simply because anyone mid super (bar golden gun and radiance with no radiant skin) can tank 2 sword swings and if any of the subclasses (bar the same 2) spec for max armor can survive a rocket. simply put it's not a new thing. armor always protected you from rockets and now from 2 burst deaths. and the swords follow the same damage model as arc blade does. Hopefully this thread gets around and people stop complaining about how tanky they are or how stupid strong hammer damage is. EDIT: I completely forgot to mention the shotgun testing done. I managed to survive a conspiracy D headshot at point blank when I had the max armor+ the additional armor from the chest piece. with out the additional armor from the chest piece I die. So High impact shotguns will one shot sunbreakers if they are headshots 90% of the time.[/quote][/quote][/quote]
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1 답변So when the sunbreaker stops and annihilates you with a hammer out of the tether range then what?
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1 답변작성자: Quadlog 10/1/2015 3:08:00 PMI played hunter and shut down a sunbreaker by running around a column with the Titan chasing me. I gunned him down with just hawkmoon but it took 5 shots to do it. Hammers don't curve around things. Lol
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8 답변Orrrrr......just shoot them in the face with an efrideets spear or black spindle / hammer.
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3 답변작성자: mcclean94 10/1/2015 4:18:14 AMFor anyone wondering.. This guys sitting at a 4.24 kd. [i]Terrible.[/i] [spoiler]but srs...[/spoiler]
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6 답변I'm always being killed by Stormcallers. I hear that electricity and go 'oh snap RU-' and then I'm dead.
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2 답변I find Hunter tether ability one of the greatest thing in PVP... IT SHUTS DOWN OTHER PEOPLE'S SUPERS!!!! and then it tethers them in purple shit...they can't move, can't see and just die by teammates and spawn orbs!!!!
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2 답변You mean to tell me I should use a super to counter another persons super?! Cmon now Shaxx that type of logic is just crazy and unheard of!
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You know what i do? Sacrifice blueberries to the great Sunbreaker, i once tried to neutralize a Sunbreaker, then i took a hammer to the face. Never again. Since then i've barely been killed by any Sunbreakers unless they get the jump on me.
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3 답변As a matter of interest, from the OP only please : If at all, what changes need to be made to the Sunbreaker? From someone who actually carries some weight. Please leave the post you made to the side for a minute; because from what you have described it is a great way to shut them down, HOWEVER it seems as though you are saying Nightstalkers are strictly needed to shut down Sunbreakers, as in cooldowns such as a super needs to be saved?
