You don't actually own the game though almost all modern games if you read the small print make that quite clear think as it more as renting the right to play that's not just destiny like I said but almost all modern games

You agreed to the terms of service so sadly your lawyer cant do shit.

Actually it can because the EULA i agreed is changed without my consept. I didn't play or load Taken King Patch 2.0 so i didn't had to accept the new EULA. And fFYI that part : We can change EULA anytime we want : Have no validity on the eyes of court. Because a contract requires approval from two sides. And again our consumer laws are designed to protect customers , their stupid internal EULA have no validity against consumer laws.

You agreed in the terms of service (which you signed for TDB and HoW) that you acknowledge that Bungie can alter the game at will. And besides, do you really want to lawyer up against a company that makes billions in sales a year? Good luck with that. They will bring in their high dollar retainer lawyers and fillibuster you in court until you go broke and can't continue, then deal the death blow by showing that you digitally agreed to the EULA, and then BOOM. You are left paying thousands upon thousands in lawyer and court fees (loser of the lawsuit pays the court fees) and Bungie walks away.

No they can't alter the contract i signed without my approval. Simple as that , your country laws may allow that however my country laws don't

Actually, let me kill your lawsuit dreams right here: PATCHES AND UPDATES: Bungie may deploy or provide patches, updates, and modifications to the Program that must be installed for you to continue to use the Program. Bungie may update the Program remotely without notifying you, and you hereby grant to Bungie consent to deploy and apply such patches, updates, and modifications. Straight from the agreement you have already signed. Your case dies right there. Let me kill it some more for you: CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT:[b] Bungie reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to change, modify, add to, supplement or delete any of the terms and conditions of this Agreement when Bungie upgrades or patches the Program.[/b] The changes to the Agreement will be effective upon prior notice as follows: Bungie will post the revised version of this Agreement on its website, may include the terms with a patch or update and require acceptance as part of the installation process, or may provide such other notice as Bungie may elect in its sole discretion. If any future changes to this Agreement are unacceptable to you or cause you to no longer be in compliance with this Agreement, you may terminate this Agreement and receive a refund in accordance with this Agreement. Your installation and use of any of Bungie’s updates, patches or modifications to the Program or your continued use of the Program following notice of changes to this Agreement will demonstrate your acceptance of any and all such changes.[b] Bungie may change, modify, suspend, or discontinue any aspect of the Program at any time. Bungie may also impose limits on certain features or restrict your access to parts or all of the Program without notice or liability. You have no interest, monetary or otherwise, in any feature or content contained in the Program.[/b] So go ahead, lawyer up. You'll just lose. If it even makes it into court. See, you have steps that have to be taken to ensure that the lawsuit is well founded before it will even make it to the courts. So, once this document comes out, and Bungie shows that you signed it, your plea dies before a judge ever hears about it. No matter what country you are in. The fact that you are on here screaming about a lawsuit is evidence that you blindly accepted the terms without even reading them. How do you do that?? I never sign ANYTHING without reading it first! Didn't you watch South Park (Human Cent-iPad episode)?

If i loose it so be it , at least i'll know that i tried . There are different type of people , i am one of the one's that don't accept the bullshit and always chase my rights. I make plenty of money and have my lawyers. Let them deal with it . Initial submissions will not cost me anything other then the regular money i already pay for my lawyers ;)

While you might make plenty of money, Activision and Bungie make A LOT more. And probably have the best law firm money can buy on speed dial. The hole in your case comes from accepting those terms and conditions. Bungie/Vision will swing that stick mightily. You can initiate for the fee you already pay, but trust me when I tell you your lawyer(s) will just come back and show your agreement to the terms of use and tell you it would be foolish to proceed. I know you're frustrated. I actually feel for you. Truly. It sucks that Bungie chose this avenue to try and drum up sales. Oddly enough, it was this kind of practice that Luke Smith was adamantly against when he was just a writer. It is what it is though, and I sincerely doubt a lawsuit is the answer.

Dude again you are just posting your respond with US laws in your mind and which is totally the opposite here. Big corporations can't win cases because they have money. System doesn't work that way in the other side of the Ocean.

Just an interesting observation it says they maintain the right to patch, add modify etc. but doesn't mention maintaining the right to require payment for those patches, adds or mods as they see fit.

There isn't a law in place that say they CAN'T charge for extra content. This is basic economics. Work goes into making a patch. That means man hours have to be paid for. Also, do you really think Destiny's ten year plan is release one core game and then give away all future content for free? I sincerely hope you aren't a business owner, because that is bad business. You charge for what you work to make. This is how a business works. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Easy peasy. BUUUUT, since you bring up that point, let me kill that for you: The company who decides what to charge is Activision, not Bungie. Bungie makes the product. Activision distributes it. Therefore, Activision sets the pricing. Why do you think that if you want a refund you are referred to the Activision side of things as opposed to Bungie? You DID read the agreement right?

[quote]There isn't a law in place that say they CAN'T charge for extra content. This is basic economics. Work goes into making a patch. That means man hours have to be paid for. Also, do you really think Destiny's ten year plan is release one core game and then give away all future content for free? I sincerely hope you aren't a business owner, because that is bad business. You charge for what you work to make. This is how a business works. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Easy peasy. BUUUUT, since you bring up that point, let me kill that for you: The company who decides what to charge is Activision, not Bungie. Bungie makes the product. Activision distributes it. Therefore, Activision sets the pricing. Why do you think that if you want a refund you are referred to the Activision side of things as opposed to Bungie? You DID read the agreement right?[/quote] You talk like you're in a crappy kung fu movie. "Your arrogance is truly impressive, but your stupidity is no match for my conversation style" For you to assert you know anything about my opinions or understanding is laughable.

Who said I was assuming anything? You post clearly points toward saying that Bungie has no right to charge for their product. Pretty easy to see what you were inferring from it. I assume nothing about your opinions or understanding other than what you posted. Perhaps I missed what you were aiming for. I took it to mean that you don't think Bungie should charge for content updates. I mean, how could I take "Just an interesting observation it says they maintain the right to patch, add modify etc. but doesn't mention maintaining the right to require payment for those patches, adds or mods as they see fit." any other way?

[quote]I assume nothing about your opinions or understanding other than what you posted. /quote] Proceeds to explain the assumptions made about what I "inferred". [quote]Perhaps I missed what you were aiming for. I took it to mean that you don't think Bungie should charge for content updates. [/quote] [quoteI mean, how could I take "Just an interesting observation it says they maintain the right to patch, add modify etc. but doesn't mention maintaining the right to require payment for those patches, adds or mods as they see fit." any other way?[/quote] Well one way would be to assume you're not in a fight (which I get, it seems everyone here is always trying to win some imaginary battle of wits) so I don't fault you for interpreting my comment as sarcasm or a jab at you, Poe's law right?). My comment was just to be taken at face value, as an interesting observation. I didn't say, mean, intend anything else. For the record I assume we're all on the same team here regardless of opinion.

Fair enough. And all on the same team we are. And I lifted your video for future use. Because it was kind of funny. EDIT: Poe's Law LOL! Haven't heard that in a while.