It is well established that video games are products you can buy and play indefinitely - this is part of their base market value and why players value them around $60 for a game. Sometimes their servers close down, but that's usually years and years later. It seems like BungieVision is trying to instill a lazy dynamic (Planned obsolescence) into the console gaming market. They don't have to work as hard to come up with innovative, and engaging new content, if they rely on breaking the old content. The new content should be so amazing that we can't help but buy it, not be the only thing viable because our old stuff has been weakened and activities blocked off. I never played MMOs, but from what I understand they never removed old content, or made things you own less powerful. They would make new content that required new gear, but your old content wasn't made obsolete.

While 40 may not seem like a whole lot, when you think about it in a mature manner you understand that it compares to 20 less dollars than the original game itself. They then broke down the original game into a 4th of what it actually was supposed to be (story wise and some content). So we paid 60 for a 4th of the storyline but received a vast majority of in game loot on disc day 1. That's fine I guess. Many were upset but we lived. They then charged us 20 more for a halfassed raid, some loot, and a few missions. HoW drops and again they charge 20 for more of the same and a couple new modes. Great! Now we are at $100 and give or take 75% of what Bungie intended to release Day1. Now for TTK. Well that's another $40. But it comes with a raid right? How many new missions? 3? How many did the game have on the day of release? So wait, we have to pay 2/3 of the original price of the game all the while they [b]delete[/b] all the old content we paid for in prior DLCs? If I'm completely new to the game as of today, do I pay $140 for Destiny at GameStop? Nah just a cool $60 because all that old shit we paid for is completely gone. And I mean gone as in if I wanted to play through those DLC missions right now or do Vangaurd strikes, or hell even buy a weapon I can't. I'm here because I want to be here. I want to play the game. I'd rather be doing that than ranting here on the message boards. But I just don't see the sense in essentially wasting money on an overpriced expansion. And I wonder if many of you feel the same

It's the removing of such things we were able to play, such as Nightfalls, Weekly Heroics, and certain Crucible playlists, and, to a much lesser extent, the removal of gear vendors, that's frustrating. We're not whining about how we didn't get free content, we're concerned (or whining, your choice) about the fact that features present since day 1 and introduced during the DLC (which I did purchase) are being removed.

I dont need the new things until i buy them but i have rights for what i paid for and i dont have half of it

Destiny, for all intents and purposes [i]is[/i] an MMO. So if you want to keep playing it and be in the now, gotta buy the expansion packs and DLCs. It sucks, but whatcha gonna do.

Thank you Bungie. You have set me free... I was on the fence, about to purchase TTK, when you literally bulldozed the fence, and the entire -blam!-ing house.

DESTINY: The Taken Content

[quote]Is there any other games this happens in when a new Expansion comes out? Keep taking more and more away each DLC or Expansion instead of just remaining the same as you had before?[/quote] Yes, in fact there is an entire genre that's exactly like this, it's called the MMORPG. Destiny is part FPS, part MMORPG, so you're just going to have to deal with the reality of what that means when it comes to expansions. A reality that real MMORPG players have been dealing with for years.

*sigh* You like everyone here when you first put Destiny into your console the first thing you were greeted by was a screen asking you to agree to the EULA (Terms and conditions) In the terms and conditions that YOU agreed to may I add, specifically stated "Bungie may change, modify, suspend, or discontinue any aspect of the program at anytime. Bungie may also impose limits on certain feature or restrict your access to parts or all of the program without notice or liability. You have no interest, monetary or otherwise on any feature or content contained in the program." Now YOU agreed to this and carried on paying and playing and now they are restricting content THAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD now you get all pissy. why didn't you simply sit down and spend 5 mins reading the terms and conditions. Who doesn't read the terms and conditions.

Say you went and seen the first Fast & Furious, this mean you can watch the sequels for free??

[i]Every MMO follows this pattern.[/i] Every year content refreshes and progress resets. Also, you have to buy the new expansion which is usually around the same price that the base game was. The base game and previous expansions see a price drop to make it cost effective for new players to join. Those who choose to not upgrade to the current expansion get left with nothing to do, no gear to grind for, no new bosses to slay, and nobody to play with. Don't be surprised in 4 months when another $20 DLC drops though. These will be like TDB and HoW, smaller and less comprehensive than the base game or the overhaul that TTK has brought. They will effect your ability to run certain activities or playlists, as we have previously seen. This isn't a surprise anymore. It's how this industry operates. Don't like it? Don't buy their products and services.

Year one destiny is over. This is Y2. If you don't want to spend the 40 for almost a new game. That is your own fault.