I can't stand this ongoing issue! I'm still getting 1 shot at too long of a range with the Felwinter's, Madator, Party Crasher, Conspiracy Theory, etc with the Rangefinder perk.
These specific shotguns need to have their max kill ranges pulled back, or else this isn't going to get better. I still struggle to use my primary as much as I would like to because the range is encouraging people to get in close enough to pull off a semi-ranged shot, and will go to extremes to do so.
Guess I'm dusting off my Felwinter's again until this gets fixed.
EDIT: I'm perceiving the current kill range to be around 10ft, and I am proposing the kill range be about 8ft instead, so if you think my measurements are inaccurate then use the ratio I'm implying. Somewhere between Found Verdict and Invective's kill range would be a great balance.
EDIT: Pizza and chill suggests that PVP shotgun range should be increased significantly, and it's impact be reduced so it takes more than 1 shot to kill. This makes sense since a body shot from any sniper doesn't kill a player due to shields, so I just had to share his innovative solution.
UPDATE: I removed Shot Package as a problematic perk because it's being removed from old and new shotguns with it equipped in the next patch.
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7 답변[quote]I can't stand this ongoing issue! I'm still getting 1 shot at too long of a range with the Felwinter's, Madator, Party Crasher, Conspiracy Theory, etc with Shot Package or Rangedinder. These specific shotguns need to have their max kill ranges pulled back, or else this isn't going to get better. I still struggle to use my primary as much as I would like to because the range is encouraging people to get in close enough to pull off a semi-ranged shot, and will go to extremes to do so. Guess I'm dusting off my Felwinter's again until this gets fixed. EDIT: I'm perceiving the current kill range to be around 10ft, and I am proposing the kill range be about 8ft instead, so if you think my measurements are inaccurate then use the ratio I'm implying. Somewhere between Found Verdict and Invective's kill range would be a great balance. EDIT: Pizza and chill suggests that PVP shotgun range should be increased significantly, and it's impact be reduced so it takes more than 1 shot to kill. This makes sense since a body shot from any sniper doesn't kill a player due to shields, so I just had to share his innovative solution. EDIT: Props to JHOODAK47 for properly pointing out that PVE shotguns are only up 10% damage currently from their vanilla damage release values, so the damage nerf hit PVE hard! UPDATE: Cozmo mentioned on another post that he would bring up this issue to the Dev's![/quote] Dude please stop crying about shotguns or any guns for that matter. There are over 20million ppl world wide who play this game, stop for a minute and think how could bungie possibly balance the crucible to everyone's liking. You say too close, he's says too far, it never ends. I suggest you have a Coke n a smile and shut the f@#k up. (and I mean that in a nice way)
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1 답변I find the chaperone to be incredibly balanced for a shotgun (even if its has precision slugs) two shots to the body at any close range while at an extended range 1 shot head shot I find that more shotguns should have been based on this principal in the first place instead of their ridiculous shotgun sniper range
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1 답변Ohh. I have a very good idea. Instead of playing crucible and complaining like a idiotic scrub. Why don't you stop. Gasp, I know right. Like seriously. Its like a kid who touches the hot stove and complains to his mom. "Mom the Stove is hot and I think that's dumb". Mom says "well if it bothers you, and makes you angry, DON'T TOUCH IT"!! If you can't understand this, then your an idiot. Good day.
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4 답변I have a shotgun that's broken, I can fire the luck in the chamber every round, and when I use this technique, my shotgun fires faster?????
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3 답변I think your wrong because pvp really only matters for ib and ToO. Crucible is awesome fun, but when it's not ib or ToO it's just that.... Fun That being said, I think things will be different in a week and a half with year two ib and ToO. Year two shotguns rarely drop with the rolls necessary for great range, and I think that's why guns like the chaperone are so cool/unique I do think it's really dope you have responded to most everyone in a reasonable and constructive way. I don't agree with you totally, but good post!
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3 답변Be the better man(or woman) and dont being out tour felwinters. Theres enough of "them" as it is.
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5 답변Stfu stop complaining and just stay out of that range you just never lear you keep going back into range
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1 답변Wrong. I have to point blank put it to their head to even hurt them. So no they're fine maybe u just ran into someone with a shotgun that had high range? Maybe that's what happened? Idk I know they aren't to great as far as range goes tho I use it all the time and I'm never more than a barrels length away. Otherwise I might as well bend over for them to kill my ass. Shotguns are fine.
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1 답변Agree. SG OP in Crucible. It should take skill and corner camping to net kills with a shotgun, not just running straight at ppl and slide-shooting/blink-shooting.
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4 답변Range of shotguns is the matter with them. It's the size of the maps that matter. Every map is close quarters I don't understand why you people can't figure this out
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2 답변Ive heard theres a glitch with luck in the chamber.. its happening predictably.. so guys are getting crazy range
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1 답변So you are saying the 3 milliseconds differance between 10' & 8'with a person coming full speed at you will make it better. Get real. Leave shotguns alone. They have been trashed enough in pve. You need to get over being killed a few extra times. You cannot always win the battle.
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2 답변작성자: WestieBarks 10/3/2015 1:11:40 AMShotguns are the bane of the crucible. Folks who primarily use shotguns shouldn't be playing. EDIT: my solution would be to make shotguns a breaching weapon. Make them useless beyond point blank range and give make them one shot at such range. This would let them serve their intended purpose and make them what they're supposed to be: breaching weapons and CQB weapons.
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1 답변Wow the fact that people still are sad at shotgun range is appalling shot guns are good at close range so keep a distance from you enemy and you won't get killed by a shotgun same as if you stand right in sniper range from someone with one you might get killed with a sniper
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2 답변Shotguns own cqc? Snipers own at range who would have figured? A shotgun shoots pellets that pepper your chest to face and it shouldn't be a 1 hit kill?
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10 답변Shotguns need to be 2 hit kills. Hear me out before you noobs freak out. A 2 hit kill shotgun INSTANTLY solves the range problem, since you can't get one hit anymore. But in someone's face, where shotguns should be used, you still get the shoot/melee combo. If need be still make headshots one shot kills, reward a skilled shot (or just a lucky hip fire but shhh) Destiny is a game with shields. Nothing should one shot you from a body shot with a shield, it defeats the purpose. The issue I have with shotguns is people with no gun skill can literally run right through your shots at them, eating every single one, and trade you from a stupid range. Even fusion rifles have a charge time to balance the one shots. Shotguns you just point the cross hair and shoot.
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1 답변Cuz nubs still use old shotguns because they want to be gods in the crucible. It only makes you look worse. [i]YEAH I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BLINK SHOTGUNNERS!!![/i]
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