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Thorn is nowhere near as OP. The damage is average for a hand cannon and the only time it's unfair is when you kill the guy using it and die after, which happens but not constantly and it's not like it happens half as often as TLW gets a two shot kill.
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Are you really comparing a shotgun to a handcannon? Really? "shotguns can one shot people, so everything else should too!" Come on dude.. I see people get snipe range kills with TLW constantly. They're both OP but TLW is the worst.
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TLW with 111's (while hip firing) can indeed kill up close in nearly an instant (0.24 seconds). The bug when ADS is indeed broken, but its inconsistent and unreliable. Thorn, and near sniper range and up close, has a TTK of about 0.74 (the time it takes to grt two shots off to the head). It doesnt matter what the burn is. As soon as teo yellow markers come up, you can prance away and watch him burn. He's already as good as dead in thr games eyes. You also need to account for the Thorn glitch which absolutely solidifies a kill with a single headshot and a body shot, again, at nearly sniper range. All in all, Thorn is a guarenteed kill at nearly any range due to the glitch with it and the range it has because it can hit a 112 headshot on command , where as TLW ADS bug is inconsistent and unreliable at shorter ranges Thorn is indeed more overpowered than TLW.
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They're broken, absolutely. I used Hawkmoon, Thorn and TLW long before they we every considered "the meta" and they absolutely rolled kids (not to sound hipster or anything). I can't wait for the people who only use them because they're OP move on. I can enjoy my hand cannons with the other devout hand cannon users.
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I used thorn since last October before it was OP which is why I hate that it's the meta. I just thought it looked cool and it was the only hc I could hit players with cuz I was new and havnt played a FPS in a long time before this one. I'll be glad when I can use it again without being criticized or called a noob. Cuz I will definitely go back to it once it's nerfed. I just enjoy how it handles.
