Lol 3 34s? Your hunter is wearing blue boots and has never a done raid. "Beta player" smh. To actually provide a relevant argument; why is it that a new player is instantly stronger than a majority of the player base? It's because white weapons are now stronger than our most prized weapons. Why should I move on? We all know now that now that we're reduced to blues we'll be spending hours on strikes we used to finish in minutes now. A beta player can remember how hard it was to kill the Walker Tank with greens, but now its coming back. TTK exotics and legendaries being much better is an exuse to raise playing time. They don't care if you did VoG 23 times for fatebringer, they want you to struggle and grind. New TTK bosses will be tanky, it only raises player play time. And like my previous point they'll all be like that Walker Tank during the Beta. I'm trailing too far off. Bungie refuses to let us use old legendaries because they don't want us rushing through there new content. I see this as a lack in confidence in their product. They know that if you continue to use the same weapons, you'll beat the story no problem much quicker than they want. This is bad as their dlc is already under fire from pricing issues and year one players being treated like garbage. They must increase the play time of the story as much as possible. These practices scare me because it proves that they want playing time over content experience. To those who say why use the same weapon for ten years. It is Bungies job to make new and exciting weapons. It's part of the reason we buy dlc's. Bungie, to a certain extent, has done this but in a very lazy way. Once again Bungie is not confident in their product so they force these weapons to be better by making everything else Shit. Upgrading to newer weapons should be a choice. Sorry for the rant, I think I'm actually going to make this a post because it isn't the same washed up arguments people have been using. TL;DR Bungie is not confident in their product, so they use play time increasing methods to force us to play their dlc longer. Edit 1: 2 hate replies with the same recycled insult Edit 2: I am now a [quote]hipster douche[/quote]

It doesn't make sense lore wise either. Why should a weapon I beat Oryx son with be viable against Oryx. He wouldn't bother coming if he thought we had all the firepower to beat him. So we just take his weapons and beat him like that.

Completely missing the point . ttk is another example of bungie removing a players options If you want to use fatebringer in year 5, why shouldn't you? Bungie is artificially replacing our gear, so that they can reinstitute the endless grind fest Instead of making our old gear useless, why can't we have gear that is interesting that is useful? Gear that makes us want to leave our old stuff behind. People don't like being forced to do things and that's what bungie is doing. Been using an assault rifle in halo for over 10 years and I'll be using it again come halo five

I really don't care about not upgrading my thorn or galley or fatebringer I'm just pissed that they made a upgraded bad juju instead of hard light. I don't want that crap all I want is a new version of hard light with the incoming buff that will make it 1000x better

A different perspective for you: the weapons represent the time invested into the game. We grinded marks, glimmer, coins, and rep to get all this gear. We raided and did nightfalls 3 times a week hoping for lucky drops. We moments and memories attached to our gear too. The bone of contention here, is that we thought our gear was going to carry over into the following years, that's why we grinded for it. I understand this is typical of MMOs, but Bungie never considered Destiny a MMO, so there's that. If they communicated to us much earlier that out gear would not carry over, we wouldn't have spent so much time to get it in the first place, and would have spent more time looking forward to new stuff. I understand your tired of hearing it, I'm tired of folks telling me to get over it. We thought our time collecting gear was going to amount to something, but it amounted to nothing. And that's why we're upset, we voluntarily gave time to this game, time that we could've been spent elsewhere; and we feel it's been wasted. I'm not looking for an argument, I just wanted to point out what seems to be an unpopular viewpoint on this forum. For all you would be trolls, take these tears \_/ and collect your bounty.

I must say, quite impressed to read a post from a fellow beta guardian that gets how things are supposed to work. Always nice to know not everyone in destiny is a butthurt child about everything. See you in year two, as we move toward a better destiny!