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If you think hunter's quick draw perk makes it better than the entire warlock class for pvp you are sadly mistaken, bungie favors warlocks it is readily apparent that warlocks are the end all be all of pvp given their exotics are pretty much the best in the game all of their abilities enable them to get multi-kills in a timely fashion their supers are designed to add to their carnage, their stats are the most balanced in terms of agility, armor and recovery (the fact that they have the highest recovery in the game makes them ideal for pvp, the fact they can almost keep up with hunters in the agility spectrum enables them to hunt down hunters). a good player can play hunter well a bad player not so much, a great player can dominate with the titan bad player can really only use fist of panic, a good player playing warlock will dominate over skilled players of the other two classes simply because their abilities are designed for multi-kills, a bad player can play a warlock and still do better than skilled titans or hunters.

Your perception is wrong. Bungie doesn't need based on people's cries. Your correlating the wrong the data. Bungie has said dozens of times that they do not want a game where there is 1 gun to turn to. They want it so people can customize and do their thing. In short you see 100 people cry and then a nerf and think bungie responded to the people. But in actuality bungie noticed an imbalance in gameplay and fun types and nerfed to bring all the guns in line again.

Don't tell me what to nerf

Thank you, finally someone said it. Its not "Elitism" because we want people that are good in crucible to judge what happens in it. That should be the way it is in all games. Sorry i dont want little kids crying on the forums because they're getting killed by the thorn or TLW. Hell Think back to the Auto Rifle nerf. Every person wanted a Suros Regime. Every little kid cried until they got one now they are nerfed to shit. So Bungie, please consider this.

We don't. Bungie does.

How does K/d in destiny show your level of skill or knowledge about the game? You know how broken crucible is? How much bs you can just die from without having a chance to react? Blink shotguns, last word, supers, final round snipers, Etc. Tbh anything above a 1.2 is impressive.

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Everyone that buy this game have voice about the game. Don't care how good you are in this game, Its only good for you and does not give any benefit for bungie nor game community. This is just a game...for fun only . Not a job. If your K/D higher than 1.0...it means you kill other players more than you get killed...that is it. Could be the game matchmaker does not working properly...you just get matched with lower skilled players. And you are lucky have fun killing other players. Players with lower K/D are suffering the most. Again...if you have higher K/D does not mean you are a hero that bring any good to this game or make this game more fun to play. In fact it vice versa...Lower K/D players that make PvP fun to play...for the Higher K/D. So Bungie have to cater to them to make them still wiling to play. And for you... you just nobody just just anyone else. You already have fun in the game by killing more players. Anyway..Your K/D does not mean anything. You can snipe 5 players and then camping all day...you get 5 K/D

[quote]Honestly Bungie. Why do you cater to people because they handicap themselves with lack of skill? They cry about Blink and guns because people with more skill can make a movement and weapon look easy to use. They feel like they can't compete because of certain weapons when they have access to the same weapons it's just the player behind the weapon who is better than them. What you are doing is enabling more crutches for bad players by nerfing everything. They have access to the same weapons and same moves as anyone else. It's not fair to the rest of the community because some people can't "git good". I hope when matchmaking changes you only judge PVP from the higher tier players and let the lesser players actually learn to be good. The only way to actually tell if something is OP is if it's dominating in the higher tier of competitive players which in turn shows there is no counter. EDIT: Your real KD is found in the Grimoire card Crucible Introduction and is all kills and deaths under every Crucible mode from the start of your game to present so the argument about making a new guardian is irrelevant. EDIT: So many people think those who have a high KD have a high KD because of Thorn and TLW but it's actually skill and when the meta changes those people will still be on top and make the next weapons look OP. EDIT: I have played extensively on all 3 guardians. I don't have time to play and constantly grind on all 3 so I kept the class who is best in PVP because that's what I mainly play. If I were to choose a class overall I love Warlock but the Hunter has one skill in PVP that trumps all and that's "Quick Draw". EDIT: Once Bungie implements skilled matchmaking the game will get better and that's when you ONLY view the higher level matchmaking players. The ones with actual skill and knowledge of weapons who can find counters. EDiT: yes my total KD from the start of the game is 1.47 so therefore I didn't make this post about me "shocking" so posts directed towards me rather than the topic at hand have all been snuffed out because they are illogical. EDIT: ah yes the babies have entered the forums since it is now around the afternoon and early evening to a lot of the player base and the kiddies comments are rolling in. It went from sensible posts to personal attacks by kids.[/quote] So people that pay money for this game shouldn't have a say...got it tool

That's cool. You can't talk about warlocks or Titans though

Muted for being elitist pig

Dude I suck in the crucible and I don't want nerfs at all. I'd rather get wrecked all the time and have a shot to get better than just running a bland experience.

Lag trumps everything you said I win

Based on your observations, all special abilities should be removed and only base armor and weapons should be allowed in PVP. There would be no crutches simply skill vs. skill.

Not dictating anything at all. Just not gonna play a game where people cheat, and they DO cheat, to get an inflated KD. Personally, there needs to be a throw down tourney where the best players play each other on a closed system with mods or abilities to manipulate it. And then see who the real men are.

So you saying only the top 5% should have a say. are you from USA by any chance?

Blink shotgun doesn't take skill... It's not that people who are "good" make it look easy, it's just plain easy. You know, there's always that one girl in highschool.

Nobody should dictate pvp nerfs except bungie.

So, everyone who would disagree with the nerfs?