Errrrrr, i want to be excited, BUT THAT LOOKS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAME ENEMIES SAME GUNS SAME LEVELS SAME SHIT WITH A NEW SUBCLASS, THATS IT?!?!!?! pfffffft, looks like honest shit.

that most recent edit. you're my new favorite forum member. how do I follow?

What I'm most excited for: -Swords -Weapon foundries and new guns -Swords -new subclasses -Uh… swords -Lots of new content, plus Year 1 stuff getting a revamp -Have I mentioned swords yet?

Damn I hate the pledging thing. Dead orbit shader are d4nk but new monarchy weapons are 1337

-New gun models [b]New gun models? It takes them a whole year for them to have a new reskin model? 10/10. Btw these gun models aren't exclusive to TTK owners. NOT part of the dlc, this will be available for vanilla owners.[/b] -New patrol [b]Wow! Another Patrol map with weak enemies and loot chests that give 343 glimmer and epic greens [/b] -New game modes [b]Two. Two new game modes. Well no, one new game mode because mayhem is just clash but with increased recharge rates. Rift seems great, but that's it. It [u]seems[/u] great. We'll have to judge it when it releases.[/b] -New subclasses [b]I am excited by these subclasses, probably the best selling point of TTK. Not the raid. These subclasses.[/b] -Weapon manufacturers [b]We already have weapon manufacturers, but they haven't been branded with prominence. Destiny is just reskinning the borderlands branding theme.[/b] -Dynamic bosses [b]Dynamic bosses? No. Moving bullet sponges? Yes. Only reason to look forward to this is if their mechanics are raidlike.[/b] -[u]Cut scenes[/u] [b]Woo? I'm more excited about [u]skipping[/u] cutscenes.[/b] -Dynamic characters [b]Dynamic characters? I doubt there will be more than 3 of those. Seems like too much work for bungie anyways.[/b] -Improved ghost [b]Wow. More slightly monotonous dialogue? Yippee! Btw this is also, NOT PART OF THE DLC. It's an addition that vanilla players get as well.[/b] -Improved story [b]No. This is false. They are not improving the original story. They are adding a completely seperate story, and from what I've seen so far, we go to kill Oryx, not because we lagswitched his son, but because we found them attacking...cabal? Okay then...?[/b] -Improved balance [b]Wrong. This is not PART OF THE DLC. This is dropping for vanilla players as well on September. This is a PATCH.[/b] -Experience levels [b]Literally increasing the grind to level 50 for no reason. Makes VoG and CE and PoE all useless unless they add a harder version.[/b] -More exotics that are actually interesting [b]Still feel doubtful about this. ATS/8 Arachnid, radiant dance machines, dragons breath, NLB, nechrochasm, dregs promise, and don't touch me all seem useless and impractical.[/b] -Gear changes (arc strangers rifle etc) [b]NOT PART OF THE DLC. JEEZ DUDE. This affects ALL players. Why are you making it seem like patch + changes are part of the dlc[/b] -Going to Titan? [b]What?[/b] -New ships [b]Because that, THAT. SHIPS. Is why I grind and kill hive/taken GODS. For ships I can only see during orbit. New ships yes, but still pointless.[/b] -[u]Cut scenes[/u] [b]Again, pathetic to see this being a huge selling point in your opinion.[/b] -Vanguard getting off their asses [b]Great? What, more patrol bounties for vanguard? Whoop dee doo[/b] -Bungie states "we need to fix stuff", acknowledged that they know they were wrong year 1 and are trying their best to fix it [b]Half the time they fix something, they break something even more. *cough* Archon Priest Strike, Ashes to Asset Perk, Vex MC, QBB*cough* Not to mention the fact that it's been a year, and no patches have fixed areas in strikes that allow you to CHEESE ALL STRIKES. [/b] -New enemy type [b]The taken is "trembling reskinned and recolored enemies" with new mechanics. And it's like, just 1 new mechanic per enemy model. Pathetic.[/b] -Revamped strikes [b]Revamped strikes? Don't you mean, reskinned backwards strikes with reskinned and recolored enemies called taken?[/b] -New raid [b]Cool, been waiting for a decent one since VoG. Sadly, it only takes a mere 6 guardians to whoop down so called "Gods". Doesn't make me feel like [u]legend[/u][/b] -[b][i][u]Did I say cut scenes? AN IN GAME STORY!![/u][/i][/b] [b]Btw, there is still more story and lore in grimoire cards. They just aren't connected, necessary, nor useful.[/b] -Old, exotics good (necrochasm destroys) [b]Buffing some exotics are PART OF THE PATCH. IT'S NOT THE DLC. [/b] *facepalm* About half the stuff you listed is just part of the patch. Not to mention half the "content" are story missions, ones that have NO replay value. Yea guys. Have fun. Be "legend" or whatever bungie wants that to mean anymore. Edit: HAI GUYS I GOT FEATURED BY THE OP COUNTER MY ARGUMENTS OR MUTE MEEEEE :) Edit 2: OP unmuted me and will try to argue (grab popcorn) But let's get a few things clear. 1. I love destiny. I really do. But here's the thing. It's only fun when I'm with friends. My point is, the activity itself isn't enjoyable, but with whom I am doing it with. I wholeheartedly want to enjoy destiny. There is so much lore and cool stuff, but I was let down by both dlcs, and a lot of things bungie has done. "OP" guns ruin pvp Bugs and glitches ruin pve I do want more in destiny, it's just bungie is so... disappointing. Although they DO have the right to change their terms, it ethically isn't right after they sold it in the season pass. Concerning the "HoW Raid" [url=http://imgur.com/TxI12CP ] http://imgur.com/TxI12CP [/url] Notice how it says EACH expansion includes a new raid. YES, they can change it. But it isn't ethically right especially after SELLING it in a season pass. If they did this in a dlc not included in a season pass, I'd be fine with it. However, this, I'm not. PoE, the "raid replacement" is a nice change of pace. But that's it. A simple horde mode with 4 new mechanics and an incredibly hard boss fight with crappy loot rewards. Edit 3: Me and OP patched things up. And there are so many haters and other people so blind that say [u]NONE[/u] of my points are true? Oh please. Btw people, after 30(ish) people asking me this, Yes, I am a pessimist but only in regards to new dlc for destiny. Because I have every right to be. All I can judge destiny on is 1. Hype trains 2. Disappointment from the previous hype trains If I'm wrong, I've lost nothing. If I'm right, destiny becomes a MUCH better game, and I've gained more. I can't lose. Edit 4: ONLINE NOW. THIS THREAD HAS 750ish bumps, my post is 280ish of them. All hail controversy! Edit 5: 350 bumps. Only a small portion of haters so far. Positive bumps or friendly trolls are the rest. Edit 6: 404 bumps, haters not found Edit 7: 500 replies, about 40-45% of this entire thread Edit 8: MOST IMPORTANT EDIT I JUST NOTICED THE EXOTIC SNIPER THAT BLINDS ON PRECISION HITS check this out https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/132343383/0/0/1 I made it for some dude awhile back. Anyone think they could've used this idea? AntttC has signed this post. Shout out to OP because hype train and malicious trolls and other random reasons. Reached 625 Replies The hate will eventually make this into its own thread. And I shall rule b.net What happened guys? I got 600+ replies in 24 hours but today I barely got 20. Yall need to hate some moar [spoiler]When haters try to hate on me [ ]Rekt [X]Not Rekt Prove me wrong and I'll change it.[/spoiler]

I would like this to be good, i like the game but tbh BungieVi$ion is all hype and ripoffs. I have 0 faith in this company and have no reason to believe that they are telling the truth. They have lied to our faces before and will do it again. They don't care about us having fun they just want our cash, that's why they are offering preordering.[spoiler]P.S. how much did Deej pay you to create this post?[/spoiler]

Destiny year 1 was the beta, TTK is the full game

Bungie is great at hyping shit. .they also like to blatantly lie to our faces to get us to buy dlcs. I won't hold my breath on anything they say anymore. I'm not excited. I'm really mulling over to stepping out. Don't get me wrong I have enjoyed myself, but maybe it's time to step off the train and this would be a good time to.

Post maintenance bump

Everything we should have had day one.

Breathing intensifies* [spoiler]All aboard the hype train! Choo Choo![/spoiler]