Goodbye fate bringer, goodbye icebreaker, goodbye lord of wolves, goodbye vision of confluence, goodbye gjallarhorn, goodbye legendaries I have in my vault but never use.....YOU WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

Don't give a -blam!-. Give me more vault Space. One year. An ENTIRE YEAR. And Bungie, in their collective wisdom, can't come up with a solution to that. It's at the point where I have stopped playing Destiny. Because I have no room for any rewards. Items are stacking up in my post master.

Why bother nerfing black hammer then?

So I endured trials through disconnects that count as a fu[i]c[/i]king loss, getting my butt kicked by better players and lag to get an adept hand cannon for a month? Fu[i]c[/i]k this shit.

Ya, new weapon perks includes...Bonus damage to Hive on Tuesdays dureing IB weeks, Chance to return a round when done with a fire fight, Increased range / reduce magazine to 2, Amo regenerates 1 round per strike. What perks are you looking foward to?

If no fatebringer than maybe I'll just stop and go to Star Wars battlefront.

Wonder what I should do with the 25 etheric light sitting in my vault

1. So what they are saying is I can delete all my current characters . 2. Wait for the DLC to drop. 3. Purchase said DLC as if it a brand new game being introduced by Bungie and Activision 4. Hit max level as I forgo VOG, TDB, and HoWs. 5. Wait for someone to tell me ,"But you don't have fate bringer or Black hammer. 6. Can look at them and smile while saying " Apparently neither do you ". Thanks Bungie👍🏻

I hate Bungie for keeping important things as a secret just to fuc[i]k[/i] their players up. IF I KNEW I could be 30 in 1week of TDB without setting a single foot in VoG, I wouldn't have grinded VoG for so long! IF I KNEW I could upgrade my vanilla legendaries with etheric light, I would have kept many of them! IF I KNEW the HoW vendor-packages suddenly contain only a single fuc[i]k[/i]ing coin/mote 9 out of 10 times, I wouldn't have grinded them for so long! IF I KNEW the treasure keys will only give shit weapons and unimportant stuff, I wouldn't have grinded them for so long! IF I KNEW my new rerolled and ascended weapons would be obsolete with the beginning of year 2, I wouldn't have rerolled and ascended so much weapons! IF I KNEW my Hopscotch will be also obsolete in a month, I wouldn't have grinded over 100 strikes for a gun I can live without because I own Thorn/TLW! The fact is, every single one of those gamechanging decisions makes me back off more and more until I truly don't give a shit about this game anymore. I've already given up grinding materials, engrams, rep, leveling stuff, doing PvE, and now weapons? What's the deal with collecting this shit if they're useless after a few months? That's totally retarded! At least give us way more vault space to deal with this shit and to put cool thing away just in case you fuc[i]k[/i]tards decide to make them upgradeable again...but even this is a problem these shitheads cannot solve. I'll keep a few ones for PvP and the rest of the weapons can go to hell because I don't even feel the need to play any PvE content. New stuff? Fine...but not a perfect weapon/item? Dismantling this shit, it's not even worth the grind to upgrade it!

Think about it you are starting a fresh grind for a less than half game? This is bs Bumhole!

See this is what bugs me about TTK. I've got enough dollar dollar in my MS account to pre-order but so many things hold me back. No year one gear transferable to year two. Fine, I can start the grind for Y2 gear. But this decision flies against what the community wants. What about our hard won exotics? Most of the TDB and HoW gear is actually pretty poor, so everyone keeps using the older, better stuff. Unless TTK gear is on a par both functionally and aesthetically this is going to be a huge problem. If we had more vault space or an archive then I could live with all this, but it looks like nearly everything we've earned, Xurned and prayed to RnG for will need to be deleted. I get this is how MMO's work but the gear we're [i]supposed[/i] to upgrade to isn't keeping pace with the gear we're upgrading from. I have a feeling that year one gear will be the bottom rung of year 2. Much the same as you could get to 28 without raiding and still be mostly relevant pre-TDB. Like Cozmo says, wait and see I suppose. What I find most disturbing though is the relevance of the original year one content. In the infamous Luke Smith interview he all but confirmed that Blades of Crota will no longer appear (as they dont now) and Queens bounties will no longer be a part of the game. What's the point then, of giving new players TDB and HoW; they can't do anything with either! Nobody will do VoG, CE or even PoE. Why chase inferior, obsolete rewards? Why bother doing a level 30 hard raid when you're probably going to be six levels above the content? Atheon will just gather dust in his own little corner of time and Crota can spend eternity playing whack-a-thrall on his own, cos' no-one else will. Destiny has a ten year plan, apparently. I applaud Bungie for trying to innovate a new style of game, that runs with the life of that generation of console. What I really dont want is to get to year ten, and have some wet behind the ear noob immediately be my equal, rendering my last nine years of gameplay redundant. Nine "yearly" emblems are no reward for supporting a game that long. Unless of course I can bring my Fatebringer with me. Then it [i]really will be legendary[/i]... My final thought, as it comes to me? Maybe Bungie are going to level everything, make everything from year one into a year two equivalent. Rewrite all the loot tables to reflect this. The Templar, no longer level 26/30 will be 34/36 and will drop Fatebringer 2.0. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

I'm sick of defending this game. How many stupid moves can they make? I could care less who voices the ghost, no light level on armor is a great idea, keeps everyone from looking the same. But, leaving behind all the raid weapons I have spent so much time collecting, is some stupid shit! Just make some interesting new weapons, and perks, and not crap like shank burn, and people will work in the new weapons.

Im confused will we be able to use year 1 gear in ttk