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작성자: REDLINE HMF 7/21/2015 12:22:46 AM
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Why hasn't Bungie responded about the 2.0 backlash?

They don't care.

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They are doing damage control and will change it.

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What do you think. Edit: I'm not crying about it. Just curious because they quickly responded about the year one thing. This seems like there is more people complaining and no response. And I just got Fatebringer and Thorn and haven't had a GHORN to long. Don't play PVP too often. So I haven't been using crutches. Edit2: let me clarify things. I'm not saying yes or no to 2.0. Of course we need to see the changes in action. They don't care also means, they don't care about people complaining because they know what's best for the game. What I am surprised about is Bungie not dumping water on this firestorm and at least saying something. Maybe they will maybe they won't. I don't think Destiny is in jeopardy. Personally I love the game.
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  • Backlash? Everyone I've talk to about this have agree that 90% of the changes are fair/needed, other 5% are needed but certainly will be missed and the last 5% are unwarranted (Fusion Rifles). So 95% in my opinion is a success in weapon rebalancing.

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  • Backlash = overreactions, childish complaints, thoughtless complaints, thoughtless insults If I worked at Bungie I would very quickly reply: [spoiler]Stop whining![/spoiler]

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  • Neither of the above.

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  • Because our opinion doesn't mean anything until we actually try it first hand. All we know is what the patch notes say. And bungie has already dealt with crap like this. Look at every expansion so far. What were the forums like before it came out? Full of pissing and moaning. People need to just be patient. Remember these guys have been working on a way to balance the weapons for God know how long. The money has been spent and the changes are coming. Why did they have to work on the balancing in the first place? Because of the pissing and moaning of the forums. I don't like the fact that my Gally is gonna do less dmg. I don't like the idea of waiting longer for ammo on my icebreaker but I promise you I won't be pissing and moaning about it.

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  • SWIGGITY SWESTICLE LEAVE THIS PLACE DESTICLE[/u][/b]╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )つ──☆*:・゚

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  • Destiny is no different then any other game when it comes to players using what's best. You can call it a crutch weapon all you want, but it's still one of the best and people are going to use it. I can't think of one game or a real life situation where people don't want to use the best that's available. Work smart not hard is a common saying for a reason. They can nerf or rebalance weapons everyday, someone is gonna figure out that one weapon or gear works better than the rest and then soon a high player % will be using those. And then when you factor in such a huge skill gap between players in PvP and try to blame it all on weapons.. People get angry and demand this be changed or else. I've been gaming 28 years, so many end games where every warrior looked the same, every mage spammed the same 2 abilities, every gun and runner using the same class setup, and so on. Only thing that made us different was if the game let us change the color or style of the armor. The real difference that will separate players is skill, yes weapons and gear help influence the end result but overall it's skill. You can't nerf a player to have it so he doesn't run out into the open sniper lane where he has died the last 4 times in a row (you've seen this I know), you can't buff a player so he knows to use a grenade before rushing a corner camping shotgun user or how to not go around the corner at ground level so the camper can't easily headshot them, can't make them utilize cover to get back health and then flank them from a different los (line of sight). Can't make them use teamwork/communication. So all they can do is change the weapons so the unskilled don't die as quick. This is what it is, what it has always been. I'm sure I've left some stuff out, maybe my opinion is not liked, but it's how it goes.. Best of luck come the changes.

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  • They won't change it because like it or not, that patch is necessary and will significantly improve the game.

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  • Where's the option for "They know they're doing the right thing and people will get over it?"

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  • They don't care. They did this because of all the complaints. Also in year two we won't be able to ascend old legendaries. They want us to use their new guns. They want people to use new exotics and stop relying on old exotics. Also I think it's their way to up the difficulty.

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  • Because the backlash is dumb. Really dumb.

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  • They arent doing anything about it because they know that all the people crying about it are a bunch of babies, and the people who are actually committed to the game are happy with the changes. So, technically they dont care about the backlash because it isnt actually feedback. And hit me with all the hate comments from noobs who live off of Thorn and Gjally, I feed off your anger and come closer to my final form.

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  • 작성자: Malovi 7/21/2015 3:09:17 PM
    The available voting options are severely lacking - The devs at Bungie (or any other AAA studio) are not just a bunch of idiots who read a forum post and then over-correct with patching that creates other issues as I believe some posters on these forums seem to think they are. If you read the entire news update you will have read the justifications for and intended results of the 'nerfs' and 'buffs' which all are valid and rational responses to problems in both pve and pvp. These problems may not be overtly obvious to players but can be seen in the enormous amounts of data that Bungie has already told us they collect and sift through regarding their game and how we play it. While player feedback from the forums is important (a fact that is not lost on Bungie, incase you were confused on that point), the data that we provide them with play patterns and kill times alone is a far better indicator of where there are likely weaknesses in their design - whether it be in content or weapon balancing. This information coupled with player feedback as well as other statistical data regarding what type of content that will increase play times for the largest number of players is what fuels the decisions that ultimately culmniate in patches as well as new content. Do not be deluded into thinking that because you play video games you are qualified to make them (no, you and others have not openly said it - but the implication is clear) - game studios aren't a collection of a bunch of burn-outs that just sort of fell into doing more with their spare time than simply playing video games. If you do not like the balancing changes headed our way, have you honestly done any self-evaluation of why? The changes will effect everyone so it isn't as if certain people are going to have an unfair advantage over you. The changes are clearly articulated as intended to promote balance as well as diversity in weapon choices, particularly in the crucible. Additionally the changes will go further to force different primary weapon types into specific roles where range actually matters (as it should) Are you upset because you've been relying on arguably broken/overpowered weapons/perk combinations for success in the crucible? Do you find that just because other players can also take advantage of a weapon or perk that is not properly balanced that it is reason enough not to be addressed? As for PVE nerfs: Will it suck to not be able to simple camp up on a hill with Ice Breaker and be done with a boss encounter in record time? maybe.. if that isn't boring for you already, but you can still use the weapon effectively - just with more time taken to do so. Will it suck for Gjallarhorn to do less damage? dunno, if it does similar but slightly higher damage than epic launchers than there becomes more choice involved in weapon selection. It will still likely be a slightly better choice than most other rocket launchers so I doubt this change will really effect much in the way of what weapons people like to use. Will it suck for Shotguns to not be able to 1 or 2-shot ultras/majors? I doubt it.. a 3rd or 4th shot on enemies that are meant to be difficult is hardly game breaking, and team firing keeps the kills just as fast. I dunno, I guess it feels like some (not a lot really, given the size of the population of players) will find something to cry about regardless of how well intentioned and good for the game a change is. /shrug

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  • I'm sure they give as much fukks as me. Zero

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  • It all boils down to math 777-830473829276+682*5/55*5*0= Zero -blam!-s given And there you go! ;)

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    It doesn't matter what any weapon balancing changes look like or form they come in. They will generate enormous tears. Ask yourself a couple of questions. 1) do you think Bungie wants to decrease its player base? 2) do you think Bungie wants to lose money? If you answered yes to those then I will assume you are a blinded hater. If you answer no, then you need to think - Hey wait! Bungie wants their game to succeed. There is no way I could possibly know as much about the game than they do. They have all the background stats around damage and usage and they want to make a balanced game. I must trust they want to make the game better and grow the player base.

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  • Meh, I'm excited for the change. Most people are simply over reacting. OMG GALLY WILL BE SHIT!!! Wrong, it just won't be a crutch. OMG final round didn't need a nerf! When I can hit your little toe and you die, something is wrong. Adapt and overcome as any gamer who has been in a pre patch nerf and a stat squish has before. In WoW armor penetration stacking was king, they took the stat out all together. Get over it and move on.

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  • Because the people at Bungie are smart enough not to respond to a noisy vocal minority.

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    • Lets face it, the rebalance is mostly down to the countless shit tits in PVP who keep crying over their deaths to the most popular weapons in the game. I'll most likely get the next DLC but if this "balance" screws up PVE gameplay and fun then I'll head over to PVP and cause as much grief to you shit tits as I can for causing the changes. ......................curse you all muhwhahaha

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    • Why do they need to respond to a few whiny turds?

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    • 작성자: Don Draper 714 7/21/2015 2:33:55 PM
      [spoiler]they[/spoiler] [spoiler]dont[/spoiler] [spoiler]give[/spoiler] [spoiler]a[/spoiler] [spoiler]flying[/spoiler] [spoiler]expanded[/spoiler] [spoiler]-blam!-[/spoiler]

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    • 작성자: hexxem 7/21/2015 2:32:27 PM
      Biased & lame poll.

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    • I picked they don't care, but they are very afraid and will care when they see their sales numbers in 2 months

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      • Because you're all acting like spoilt little turdy 12 year olds. I'd ignore you too.

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      • You posted some pretty shit options for the poll. Where is the "They aren't responding because the changes shouldn't need explaining". There isn't anything wrong with the weapon balancing people just don't want their precious Gjallarhorn to be fixed.

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      • They better not change their patch for the crayon eaters complaining about it

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      • The same reason you dont acknowledge or give attention to a child who is trying to act up for attention or to elicit a reaponse, it just makes things worse and its frankly not worth your time

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