I remember my first nightfall, 3 of us tried and failed so many times. It was week 1, Sepiks arc burn. We stood huddled in a Titan bubble, outgunned and under-levelled, and only two of us had arc weapons. After hours and several attempts, we gave up. **** 1,000 hours later I walk up to Sepiks, wearing ancient Vault of Glass armour plundered from time itself and holding my Black Hammer, a LEGENDARY sniper rifle plucked from the bones of a slain God and infused with etheric light from the depths of the Awoken Queen's treasure hoard in reward for slaying the treacherous Kel of Kels, Skolas. Now [i]I[/i] am the boss, now [i]I[/i] am the powerful one. I ignore the pitiful minions and hammer away at Sepiks, I line my shots up with practiced precision - this time there is no bubble, this time there is no hiding, only the sound of my hammer rhythmically cracking away at the once powerful servitor like a rusty nail. Within minutes he is dead. I occasionally think back to that time when we couldn't beat him and remember just how far I've come. Investment ... The feeling of being powerful and rewarded is central and critical to video games. God forbid I defeat a god with his own sword and get rewarded with some awesome tool and use it to be more powerful. God forbid I become legend. 2.0 is troubling because it changes the nature of gear we have spent a very long time with, gear we spent a long time trying to get (it took nearly 100 tries for my Black Hammer), gear we upgraded and then upgraded again with etheric light (some exotics had to be levelled twice!), gear we've gotten attached to over the course of hundreds of battles. So this 2.0 feels very deflating, it goes against the feeling of growth and investment. It makes me less excited about getting new gear because it could get fundamentally changed. It makes me less attached to gear I already cherish - what if Bungie decides Fatebringer's firefly is just too powerful for a hand cannon? Bungie, you wanted our guns to tell a story. Well, that's my story. I worked hard to get that gun and it's very special to my guardian. Please don't end that story with "and then one day my incredible sniper was suddenly really ineffective so I didn't really bother using it anymore. - shadow artiste

Wait and see... Bungie: "we made a ham sandwich, do you want some?" Me: "yes please." Takes a bite... "Um bungie?" Bungie: "yes what?" Me: "why did you give me a tuna and mayonnaise sandwich?" Bungie: "that ham is working as intended!" Me: "tuna isn't ham." Bungie: "....working as intended...." Me: "did you not listen?" Bungie: ".............." Me: "I'm waiting." Bungie: ".............." Me: "I'm going to play eso." Bungie: ".............." ...........…....................................................... -------------------------------------------------- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -------------------------------------------------- ..................................................................... Bungie: "we realised we handed you a tuna sandwich.... We're ...sorry...? Would you try this great cheese sandwich with extra pickle?" Bungie: "are you still there?" Bungie: "hello.... Anyone... I have cheese....?" -------------------------------------------------- Me: "ok I'll give it another try..." Bungie: "thank you for you patience here is gift." Me: "um you just took away every thing I had already gotten...? Bungie: ".............." Me: "sigh..." ..... "Ok so where's this great cheese sandwich?" Thud... Me: "wtf bungie why did you just throw a cheese string at my head?" Bungie: "......working as intended?....." Me: "............" Splat... Bungie: "[b][u]PICKLE!!!!![/u][/b]

1v1 me in rumble nerd

The only people who we're complaining we're those who bought the game and did not have time to get final round..i thougjt bungie would let it be and let the people who played the game longer be rewarded with good perks

Untrue, veterans get the emblems from playing on dates from the early life of the game. They are the true and rightful way to respect veterans. OP guns that new players can't get? That's pointless it'll just push new players away (think of the game as a business, if you aren't already thinking that way, you've lost the fight). Emblems and Shaders? Aestitetic items that will only make the new players envy us rather than hate the game because of us. Don't get so carried away trying to be all special, because regardless of what your moms and the posters on the walls in your middle school tell you, you're not a snowflake.

Dude....it was broken! If you relied on that you're a terrible sniper!

They ruined the supposed legendary PVP sniper, E spear. I understand why it shouldn't be on snipers like LDR who have so much else going, but high impact snipers have no place in PVP. They should have just lowered damage of final round so only the highest impact could still 1 shot.

[quote]This being removed makes there literally nothing veterans have that can't be got by newbs.[/quote] You know, I just finished a post in another thread where I mentioned the Shadow Price sitting in my vault waiting for a good reason to dust it off. How is a new player going to get one of those?

We want realistic games right? Pretty sure a snipers going to kill you in one shot to the body. Try to disagree. Now the perks useless since head shots kill in 1 shot any ways unless in PvE.

OP almost had me there. ALMOST. #satire