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작성자: SmoggyPluto
7/6/2015 10:06:56 PM
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GAMESPOT CALLED BUNGIE OUT
http://www.gamespot.com/shows/the-point/
We can't let them become this. Bungie, this isn't fair and you know it. I and I'm sure many others realized that destiny is designed to be an addictive slot machine back after the dark below. We need to start demanding more of bungie. I have been wanting one simple thing for months that would fix destiny and we need to make bungie comply. Game publishers design games to have little content this way their players will jump at buying a dlc. And if that dlc is small, then you will just feel even more pressured to buy the next one! If bungie isn't going to give us something to do, then let us do it! I'm going to put a quote from a previous post of mine below. Friends, bungie is choking us of content so that we will buy the next one without them even having to do a good job on it. Tell bungie that we can do it ourselves if they won't!
[spoiler]Destiny needs a forge mode. I think this was key in the replayability. You could make the game whatever type of game you want. You can make an awesome, spread out, Military map loaded with vehicles and weapons, or you could make a close up zombie map that gets your heart beating like crazy haha. I personally could spend hours in halo reach making those rocket ships by taking a building and putting in those lifts and going for a ride in the sky. If this was in destiny, imagine how awesome that could be. And Also, we could literally do bungies work ourselves! One of the biggest disappointments in destiny was the lack of space in patrol. What if players could expand upon the destiny universe themselves in a forge mode and create unique lurs and myserious tunnels with booby traps and bosses! Then, they could submit their work to bungie and every week bungie picks one of the submitted areas to add to the destiny universe. Players could make whole freaking planets! And even on top of that, maybe they could even make raids!!! If i have to fight for one addition to destiny, it would be this. In halo reach, there were sooo many amazing maps you could download. Many of them even had a small background story implemented by the creator! If bungie added this to the destiny universe, I can't even imagine how quickly the requests for new content would disappear! Friends, with this we could possibly have a new raid every week!!! Who wouldn't want this?[/spoiler]
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1 답변작성자: RnkG 7/8/2015 4:24:28 AMThis is what they have been from day one... There is NO BECOME because they have always been this. His comment about getting a legendary engram as delayed gratification is proof. Even if they decrypt into a legendary item we get excited that we got the engram. However we ignore the fact that it will most likely be resolved into a couple of ascended shards or energy but we still hope for an exotic. Get it? Good. It works only so long as you continue to let it. It's a super fun game, I loved it, but we should be able acquire all items through means other than pure RNG. Enough bad luck with RNG should result in acquiring so many shards or energy to buy any piece of gear. (Including exotic shards) If you break down 50 exotics RNG gave you, you should be able to buy a ghorn with said shards. (they wrecked this buy selling exotic shards but I'm just using it as an example). RNG is good, it creates a great feeling of reward but shouldn't be the final say in acquiring all of the content. But maybe I'm just some prick who acquired everything via RNG... So I'm probably all wet on the subject.
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I agree, this game is playing us, I dont mind though, I still enjoy it. It's better than doing nothing. Just watch out for when they start selling weapons and armour for real money. That will screw a lot of people, and it WILL happen.
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7 답변Not really sure what is achieved by this video other than increasing gamesspot’s visitors (oh which is what they want), ok its well done and looks hard hitting and edgy but it really reveals nothing that a regular gamer already doesn't know. 1) Games are addictive, always have been always will be. 2) Successful games always in the past come with a sequel, now they call it a DLC as that's how its delivered but the basic principal is the same. 3) Game developing and distribution is a business, same as mine in the respects that I want to maximize income for what I provide, normal business operating procedures. My brother was an alcoholic, it was easily available and they made it very attractive, it cost him everything and eventually his life. An addictive product with real implications and not this crap he’s trying to make out is important. What I am saying is there are worse things to be addicted to than $100 a year destiny habit. I feel I have fun playing it, I can play it endlessly but in the end its just a game and unlikely to bankrupt or kill me. Gamespot are so far up their own ass with this one its just funny, gamespot have the same board meetings in which they all sit round talking about how they can get more subscribers / visitors / advertising revenue etc etc. They are selling you the same sh*t under a different banner and you don't appear to be aware of that. Wake up smell the coffee and have fun, that's all that f**king matters.
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Forge for destiny would be great. This is kind of a bad example, but look at Cod:WAW. When people play the zombies mode, I only see them play custom maps, never the maps supplied for you. And people, provided with the right options, could make some really cool destiny maps, strikes, and even raids.
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IMO I think it is Activision that is the issue. Activision is money hungry and known for there monay hungry marketing strategies with DLC. I feel that The HOW and TDB were supposed to be released at launch( at leastthe story missions from the DLC's) with the raids/ToO content coming out for free at timed intervals. This would explain why alot of the areas and stuff from DLC was already in game at launch but not accessible. When the lead designer/writer quite bungie it caused set backs making the content not 100% ready at launch. I feel if Bungie was not partnered with Activision they would have delayed the lauch to get the game ready for the content that was not 100% finished but because of the activision contract they had to launch in September and thats when they deciding to break the unfinished content into DLC's TDB(hive) HoW(fallen). I could be wrong but you look at it and it makes sense ut we really will never know.
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Don't blame bungie....... Think about this logically. Pushing dlc is the new market tactic for driving sales. Bungie has only released how many games in the years since dlc has become popular? What oversized money hungry company that specializes in pushing dlc and crap games with crap content down everyone's throats got financial oversight over bungie in this whole destiny deal? Bungie is kind of a puppet with its own idea. It had plans, hopes, dreams, and desires for this idea but the puppet master Activision with its how many millions of dollars of financial control and influence are really pulling the strings here. Look at all of your call of duties and each and ever micro dlc they produce as just one single example. Got a dlc for this zombie map, dlc for the 2025 map zomg, dlc for this avatar skin, dlc dlc dlc. Really think about it. How much experience in this whole dlc market does bungie really have? I'd also say this. Compared to other games sporting extra buy after the fact content. At least bungies is worth it. Sucks always shelling out more money but at least the playtime is significantly increased. One new map dlc..... kiss my ass. Trials plus PoE may not be much but fold in 2 raids, normal bounties nightfalls weekly....... takes allot time to finish all that 3 times every week now.
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I have every exotic in the game. I play because it's the best FPS out right now. I also like the social aspect of the game. I'll be getting God of war July 17 but I'll be back bloodborne and batman couldn't keep me away from destiny, doubt it can.
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Doesn't need forge really, what it needs is the ability to select a PvE mission (strike or story) add custom modifiers and gain xp from playing said mission beyond the first play through. You get xp from crucible maps multiple times, why not story missions?
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I would love to have a forge mode. That will be awesome . However, them cutting the game into small sections of it ( DLC's) is how they get paid ladies and gentlemen. We don't pay=they don't have jobs. They will lay off all of those brilliant minds that have created this incredible game and then re hire with noobs who will destroy this game. Let's make sure that doesn't happen!. You have to look at the big picture once in a while folks. This game is HUGE and I can only imagine what those designers,engineers,artists are getting paid, because they are at the top of their class. This game is beautiful and there is a lot that went into creating it . I don't mean to sound like A-Hole but this game isn't created by little magical elf's living in a giant tree. That money needs to come from somewhere. Sure they can give us more, I am not disagreeing with that, but if we all just stop paying for shit how so many people are opting for then we can kiss this game goodbye Preety much. That's my take on it . I may be wrong but it's the way I see it.
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2 답변Which is why I'm buying the taken king and after that, unless the expansion totally blows me away with how utterly amazing it is, I shall no longer be putting my money into this game. $40 is a lot and this is a real pivotal point for me and for a lot of others too I presume. There used to be this mobile game called D.O.T that I would constantly play and put money into and it was really fun for a while until I realized that it will never amount to anything and everything was a total slot machine style of game. Nothing was ever certain and once I realized it, I never touched the game again. It's very similar to how destiny is working and it's upsetting me greatly.
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No one forced any of us to play the game! If you don't like it, don't play! As simple as that. You know it will be a grind and it is a game that base on the rng. So why complain when you are still willingly to play the game?
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After years of playing Halo, life happend and I grew out of video games or so I thought. When I heard about destiny I thought wow, this is going to be very special and dusted off the beloved 360. at first it seemed to live up to expectations, but it didn't take long to realise that the vision or dream of the developers and the community driving the idea is being controlled and manipulated by greed. Video games are supposed to be an escape from the everyday BS, therefor destiny is more like workin a second job than being an escape from work. So dissapointing in bungie for letting this happen and feel for the core developers at the heart of it, I bet they are more frustrated than us as players. Let's hope that good triumphs over evil for once, although my optimism is fading... fast.
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Very informative and thought provoking video. I've read through many of the discussions and comments people have posted in response and there are a lot of arguments and disagreements. People lets not forget that psychology is used on us everyday and pretty much everywhere. Advertising, insignias, apps, logo t shirts, etc all subtle psychology. What danny is saying is that bungie/activision/whoever is using a psychological method similar to those used on gamblers and he provided some very supportive info to show it. He then says that he fears for gaming because of this. Now personally I'm dissatisfied with Bungie. They're a great company just like when i first started with halo, but they have not been giving what they've promised. A mission backwards is not a new mission. "DLC" areas that were already in the beta(with active enemies in them). Making a few new weapon bodies and reskinning them a bunch of times doesnt exactly count as innovation in the creative side for me. They are known for their great community support and how they actively communicated with the community but for some reason they're actively ignoring us and even as far as deleting posts from people who are asking these questions. Im dissatisfied with bungie, but im also sleepy so maybe im talking out my ass. Still this is my opinion and come this september im not preordering Ttk. I'm not supporting half assed games anymore.
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I have cut my time down to nightfalls on Tuesday just to see how fast I can beat them. Today we 2 manned it really fast and killed the boss before his final spawn point he didn't have time to go immune....I recorded it. But he spawned anyway and we mowed him down a second time. With all the new games coming out I doubt I will stick around. Activision has ruined my faith in bungie. I am glad they don't get to do halo anymore after this game. I enjoyed destiny a lot but it because almost a second job. Seriously I recommend anyone taking less time on this game hop onto a new game and see what's out there. I will not buy the expansion. They released 2 with big promises and huge let downs. This one I will wait to see how the community reacts and as a someone who played the beta I may buy it if it's worth it. But let's be real I doubt it will be
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4 답변Just don't play it. I took a week off and I have absolutely no desire to play destiny at all. I'm replaying fallout 3 to get ready for fallout 4. And every now and then I'll throw in some halo 4 that actually has balanced multiplayer.
