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작성자: bluewind333
7/1/2015 3:14:47 AM
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There must of been a creator no matter how he created.
This creator must be moral and just because there are universal moral and just laws.
This must be The Christian God because he fits these descriptions unlike other gods.
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[quote]unlike other religious gods[/quote] Ok first of all, religious gods? Really? That's redundant af. Second of all, Judaism shares your God. All of the things you listed are also found in other religious deities as well
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[quote][quote]unlike other religious gods[/quote] Ok first of all, religious gods? Really? That's redundant af. Second of all, Judaism shares your God. All of the things you listed are also found in other religious deities as well[/quote] 1. Ya poor wording sorry for your inconvenience. 2. Yea they worship the same creator which fits into my wording( which I have changed bc of redundancy). 3. Moral gods is something almost never found in other religions. There are some religions with moral gods yet they do not have a creating God.
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Well, if you can read the old testament and conclude that all his genocide and endorsement of -blam!- and murder is moral, then inevitably you must think he is the one that decides what morality is, and that that somehow changed between the old and new testaments. You are then relinquishing any ability to make moral judgements yourself, as it is clear that what we think is moral doesn't matter, it's only what god says that matters (do as i say, not as i do). Then the whole framework of morality becomes meaningless as it can change at any point if your god changes his mind again.
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[quote]Well, if you can read the old testament and conclude that all his genocide and endorsement of -blam!- and murder is moral, then inevitably you must think he is the one that decides what morality is, and that that somehow changed between the old and new testaments. You are then relinquishing any ability to make moral judgements yourself, as it is clear that what we think is moral doesn't matter, it's only what god says that matters (do as i say, not as i do). Then the whole framework of morality becomes meaningless as it can change at any point if your god changes his mind again.[/quote] What I can conclude from the Old Testament is that God is a judging God. The punishment of sin is death (I'm not trying to sound radical but) and the "genocides" were justified because those he killed were sinners. He saved the Jews as his people and he gave them forgiveness. Now because of his son we can all be forgiven of our sins. He does not endorse murder of -blam!- if you look at the commandments he gave Moses you will see that.
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So, if it's okay for him to kill sinners, can we do that too? No, because that would be immoral, we all agree. But it's not immoral if he does/commands it? Then our common sense seems not to matter, our moral judgement cannot be trusted if it's so inconsistent with what he claims is moral. Things are only moral if he says so, none of us can ever know what is moral unless he tells us. Then you tell me he is moral, but you've practically stated that we cannot judge morality, so you have no basis for that claim. It's internally inconsistent, and obviously so.
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We'll we are human and God is God and God can demand anything from us because He is our father. Original sin is the sin that everyone has. We all have sin in us because we are born of this world. God threw lucifer out of heaven and he is falling to earth because he corrupted this world. All the problems humans have are because of satan and his followers. They deceive everyone everywhere they go. Man can not escape his earthly sin while he is on earth. All man can do is acknowledge what is wrong and try and overcome his sins.
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I'm actually the fifth coming of jesus, but people started using reason and now no one believes me. I'm getting fed up of making the effort to come here just to be ignored, so I've cancelled the whole deal. Ask me anything you like before I go back home though.
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You know what dude I'm sorry you can't see. I feel like though you are a follower because it is the new in thing to belittle God and Jesus Christ and I don't want you to go to hell. I was trying to help and you obviously don't care. I hope you live a long life because it might be the only one you have. In the end I hope you realize before it is to late.
