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6/27/2015 3:36:32 AM
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SO let me get this straight... We're here complaining about having spent $80 for the guardian edition to get both Dark Below AND House of Wolves which was only $20 more than the base game at $60 for TWO expansions? And now we're going even further and complaining about The Taken King being another $40 (which, by the way, the hard copy includes all of Destiny BEFORE The Taken King)? Let me be pretty transparent here and be honest because I'm getting really sick of hearing people complain about Destiny and how much it costs to play... One: For those who play Call of Duty every year and buy all of the DLC packs at about $15 a piece... That's a $60 game plus what they're now bundling as a season pass for another roughly $40-50... That's ALREADY $110 at MINIMUM for a Call of Duty game and all of its content... Bungie gave you Destiny and ALL YEAR ONE Expansions for $80 minimum... Okay, so why aren't we trolling on Call of Duty right now instead of Bungie? By the way, BOTH properties distributed by Activision who makes the call for pricing, etc... So go after Activision, not Bungie... Anyway, back on track... Two: The Taken King is not just an expansion, it's an entirely new Destiny... Destiny 2.0 if you will... So let me get this straight again... Instead of releasing a $60 brand new Destiny that makes the ENTIRE PREVIOUS YEAR obsolete just about like Call of Duty, you guys want to complain about a $40 game that includes all previous game and expansions on one disc with The Taken King?! Let's say that Bungie pulled a Treyarch/Infinity Ward and made us pay ANOTHER $60 for the base game and ANOTHER $40-50 for the DLC... Complaints registered, then overruled because you'll buy it anyway because it's Call of Duty and why do we wonder why it sells top of its market EVERY FRIGGIN YEAR?! Three: This may be the most drastic point I have coming from one online game to another and bear with me here because I know most of you don't like the phrase MMO applied to Destiny so I'm going to compare it based off the fact it has expansions LIKE an MMO instead of saying that it is because it's a "shooter with online RPG elements" according to Bungie... Anyway, to the point and I've already lost half of you because of that comparison but bear with me please... I bought WoW when it first came out... $50... Expansion ONE: $40 ($80 for a mostly DIGITAL collectors edition mind you)... Expansion TWO: $40 (Again, another $80 mostly digital collectors edition).... Expansion THREE: $30 because it was on sale (AGAIN another $80 CE mostly digital content).... Expansion FOUR: $50!!!! AGAIN WITH ANOTHER $80 CE!!!! Let's add that base price up for ONE FULL GAME AND FOUR EXPANSIONS: $210 JUST FOR WORLD OF WARCRAFT AS A GAME ALONE WITH ALL EXPANSIONS!!! Now, take that and add the... ooooohhh.... ELEVEN YEARS I have been playing the damned game at $15/month give or take roughly allowing for three years total break time and you get 8 YEARS of paying to play! 15/month * 96mths = $1,440!!!! JUST TO PLAY THE DAMN GAME! That brings my total cost of playing a game that includes expansions up to $1,650! Divide that by the 8 years and you get $206.25 JUST TO PLAY WORLD OF WARCRAFT EVERY YEAR! Now, on point three, I know many of you will cry out, "BUT THAT IS AN MMO!" That point you offer in counter-argument is irrelevant as I have already stated we are solely looking at a game that has expansions and wants you to buy them as they come out to play them... Bungie at this point has only asked for $80 in your first year of gameplay plus expansions compared to Blizzard demanding roughly $206.25 out of my wallet to play its games over the past eleven years... Yes, there is a huge time span gap between their expansions and yes that is for eleven years of gameplay, but consider this: Bungie has only asked you for $80 in your first year of experiencing TWO expansions where Blizzard often asked for us to play for a couple years and THEN dish out another $40 on TOP of the $15/month we were already paying... So even in a one year with no expansions that is still $50 for base game plus $15*12 months = $180 in your first year of WoW back when it first started with NO expansions... My point is this: Your grand total at minimum for playing both Destiny AND the Taken King is going to be roughly $120 vs the $230 that I had to spend just to play WoW in its first year... That and Bungie plans on making this game last a decade and have already been kind enough to give you TWO expansions for $20-25 vs $40 for ONE and now The Taken King which includes everything for just $40... SO if you HAVE been playing, you get cool stuff exclusive to loyal players... If you HAVEN'T been playing, then cool, you get everything for $40... Either way, I don't care if you're a new player or old one, Bungie has CERTAINLY NOT ripped anyone off with the price of the Taken King and all this bellyaching and crybaby BS needs to go because you COULD be paying for server costs, development costs, and even GAME TIME which Bungie has REFUSED to require of you (Don't you dare throw PSN in my face because that was SONY'S decision to require pay to play multiplayer and it's STILL only $50/year which comes out to a measly $4.17/month which is HARDLY 1/3 of what WoW charges)... Anyway, blast away, you'll not get any further responses from me, but I just wanted to throw down some mathematical figures as to why all this crybaby BS is really pointless and you're crying over spilled milk... Boohoo, I payed $40 for every Destiny expansion to date and can play for $4/month now... Least it ain't your soul... (PS: YES, I KNOW WoW changed it up and offers a complete package now for all the previous expansions, but that's AFTER they took all that money for the players who are playing it FIRST and that's EXACTLY why I chose that math to use for this post because it is the EXACT same situation as Destiny right now: You have current expansions being released that people are paying for NOW and not LATER... Good example of the current model of WoW vs Current Destiny would be Taken King for $40 and WoW all the way up to Mists and not including the most recent expansion is $10 on sale plus Draenor which is $30 = $40)
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  • Wow is a stupid analogy for the reasons you stated but moreso, Blizzard pumps content into the game between Expansions. They always are adding new stuff, the game is never as stale as Destiny is. On top of that WoW's expansions ARE ACTUALLY EXPANSIONS. They usually add 5+ zones to go to. Destiny DLC's (theyre not expansions because they dont expand the world) dont with the exception of TTK which we really know nothing about.

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  • So much hate. But if it's worth any I'm on your side. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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  • Lol, I knew there'd be negativity thrown at it, but in my opinion, if you're gunna play it, you'll play it. The post was just more for "may not like it, but at least I'm not dishing out every month for it" kinda thing. I'll keep playing it because I like it, simple as that ya know? :)

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  • U r a dumbass

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  • And you're just a rude member of the Destiny community being a dick... Big shocker there... Troll on the forums everyone! (-_-)

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  • How is it going to be a like destiny 2.0 it's an expansionall the old crap is still relevant for new players and old if you like going through the same old boring crap over and over all they have done is added a few new things like a 3rd sub class and a few new quests just so apart from the sub class it's just like the previous expansions

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  • You guys really should also look through the replies... I've already retracted the 2.0 statement in several replies... I'm just not going to edit the original post because I've already responded to a lot of those statements you just made... Anyway, yeah, not 2.0 because that comes next year supposedly, but still, look through the other replies I've made... It's mostly conversations about the new content and explanations as to why the price is what it is. Mostly Activision not being happy with a one-time pay and play since they have 3 other games that give continuous revenue... Anyway, repeating myself here so apologies for that...

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  • Not only that but blizzard asks for $10 for a pet in WoW, $25 for one mount with the occasional $30 for a combo to help relief in places that need it. Yet people complain bout three class items and a few emotes for $20 xD I've spent too much money on wow... -.-;;

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  • Exapnsion? More like 2 days content

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  • Not even arguing that Dark Below and HoW were low on content... Arguing simply that for $20, half the price Blizzard usually charges for an expansion and only $5 more than one map pack with zombies/exoskeleton/alien modes that CoD releases in one go... But sure, troll away oh mighty troll...

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  • CoD comes with more content shut your shit

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  • Say what you want, was a price comparison over a game that has it's content come out over a year vs a continuous experience like WoW or Destiny... Regardless of content, Activision makes the ultimate pricing calls and the reason they want to charge this price for Destiny ultimately comes down to WoW, CoD, and even Skylanders all bringing in continuous revenue through the year while Destiny only brings in initial game and expansion sales for revenue which is markedly LESS than the other three bring in... Activision helps produce the game meaning they give Bungie the funds and allocations from Activision studios in order to complete what wasn't produced from investors and therefore feels the need to gouge the players due to these facts... Don't blast the numbers and facts, blast the company responsible for them and their business practices... Bungie simply makes the game from what Activision allocates to their studios and we're all blaming Bungie and ignoring the real monopolizing titan... But sure, Map packs, aliens or zombies or exos, and microtransactions are great revenue for Activision...

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  • You know nobody cares enough about what you think to read all that. Especially since its highly likely you're just repeating yourself

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  • Then go somewhere else and read something else, no one forcing you to be here...

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  • No they didn't. Most people paid more than eighty dollars. I paid almost one hundred and fifty dollars for year one. Then I get to pay one and a half times what you pay for TTK.

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  • I'd assume by your price comparisons you either live in the UK or in a country with a higher exchange rate than the USD. I honestly don't knock anyone outside the US for complaining since (for example in the UK) the British Pound is worth nearly TWICE the USD and yet the price is set (numerically at least) at the same number as the US price meaning for an $60 game UK pays a total of close to $120 (a little under that but I'll round up anyway because I have family in England and know exactly where those of you out of the US go through when it comes to this as they constantly tell me about the cost of being over there since I want to visit). So yes, I understand the complaints outside the US, but this post was based on USD as well as being from a USD standpoint only and has no mention of conversions rates or the like. My apologies for not being more clear, but I saw the OP was in USD and complaining from what appeared to be a US position so I only applied my reply to a US stance on the game's price.

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  • Fair enough. I wouldn't be complaining at forty dollars either, it's a bargain for that amount.

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  • Lol you wrote a book to combat this trolls post.

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  • Meh, I like writing so no biggie lol

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  • Great point tho.

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  • I think WoW had a crapton more content than destiny when it came out, and aren't WoWs expansions are much bigger and meaty

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  • Not necessarily but they are definitely larger, depends really on quality of the content. Example being Cataclysm's disappointing content (to many players it was same world new textures and names) or even more obvious to older players Burning Crusade being rather flat for an expansion as well. Their best expansions seemed to be either Wrath of the Litch King (debateable for many, not including myself because I liked it) and Draenor (which even with old areas being remade was considered a good return to vanilla-ish ways but mostly due to it's adding things like garrisons and the like). However even as good as Draenor may have been their subscription base fell by a fair amount months after release so it's a little bit telling of how WoW hasn't evolved much or enough to hold newer or even older players (which is honestly why I left the game). Not saying Destiny can really compare to the amount or quality at this point, but at least I don't need more money every month to play a game I already paid for which is mainly why the content amount is much smaller. I can't really say since I don't work for Activision, but that probably had a lot to do with content vs price.

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  • I agree so much. Very well thought out and well put

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  • I agree bro. But one thing. This isn't going to be destiny 2.0. It's just a larger than usual dlc for destiny that we know. Destiny 2 is rumored for fall of 2016. Ttk is just an extention. Otherwise kudos on all points bro. Ppl r whiners

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  • [quote]SO let me get this straight... We're here complaining about having spent $80 for the guardian edition to get both Dark Below AND House of Wolves which was only $20 more than the base game at $60 for TWO expansions? And now we're going even further and complaining about The Taken King being another $40 (which, by the way, the hard copy includes all of Destiny BEFORE The Taken King)? Let me be pretty transparent here and be honest because I'm getting really sick of hearing people complain about Destiny and how much it costs to play... One: For those who play Call of Duty every year and buy all of the DLC packs at about $15 a piece... That's a $60 game plus what they're now bundling as a season pass for another roughly $40-50... That's ALREADY $110 at MINIMUM for a Call of Duty game and all of its content... Bungie gave you Destiny and ALL YEAR ONE Expansions for $80 minimum... Okay, so why aren't we trolling on Call of Duty right now instead of Bungie? By the way, BOTH properties distributed by Activision who makes the call for pricing, etc... So go after Activision, not Bungie... Anyway, back on track... Two: The Taken King is not just an expansion, it's an entirely new Destiny... Destiny 2.0 if you will... So let me get this straight again... Instead of releasing a $60 brand new Destiny that makes the ENTIRE PREVIOUS YEAR obsolete just about like Call of Duty, you guys want to complain about a $40 game that includes all previous game and expansions on one disc with The Taken King?! Let's say that Bungie pulled a Treyarch/Infinity Ward and made us pay ANOTHER $60 for the base game and ANOTHER $40-50 for the DLC... Complaints registered, then overruled because you'll buy it anyway because it's Call of Duty and why do we wonder why it sells top of its market EVERY FRIGGIN YEAR?! Three: This may be the most drastic point I have coming from one online game to another and bear with me here because I know most of you don't like the phrase MMO applied to Destiny so I'm going to compare it based off the fact it has expansions LIKE an MMO instead of saying that it is because it's a "shooter with online RPG elements" according to Bungie... Anyway, to the point and I've already lost half of you because of that comparison but bear with me please... I bought WoW when it first came out... $50... Expansion ONE: $40 ($80 for a mostly DIGITAL collectors edition mind you)... Expansion TWO: $40 (Again, another $80 mostly digital collectors edition).... Expansion THREE: $30 because it was on sale (AGAIN another $80 CE mostly digital content).... Expansion FOUR: $50!!!! AGAIN WITH ANOTHER $80 CE!!!! Let's add that base price up for ONE FULL GAME AND FOUR EXPANSIONS: $210 JUST FOR WORLD OF WARCRAFT AS A GAME ALONE WITH ALL EXPANSIONS!!! Now, take that and add the... ooooohhh.... ELEVEN YEARS I have been playing the damned game at $15/month give or take roughly allowing for three years total break time and you get 8 YEARS of paying to play! 15/month * 96mths = $1,440!!!! JUST TO PLAY THE DAMN GAME! That brings my total cost of playing a game that includes expansions up to $1,650! Divide that by the 8 years and you get $206.25 JUST TO PLAY WORLD OF WARCRAFT EVERY YEAR! Now, on point three, I know many of you will cry out, "BUT THAT IS AN MMO!" That point you offer in counter-argument is irrelevant as I have already stated we are solely looking at a game that has expansions and wants you to buy them as they come out to play them... Bungie at this point has only asked for $80 in your first year of gameplay plus expansions compared to Blizzard demanding roughly $206.25 out of my wallet to play its games over the past eleven years... Yes, there is a huge time span gap between their expansions and yes that is for eleven years of gameplay, but consider this: Bungie has only asked you for $80 in your first year of experiencing TWO expansions where Blizzard often asked for us to play for a couple years and THEN dish out another $40 on TOP of the $15/month we were already paying... So even in a one year with no expansions that is still $50 for base game plus $15*12 months = $180 in your first year of WoW back when it first started with NO expansions... My point is this: Your grand total at minimum for playing both Destiny AND the Taken King is going to be roughly $120 vs the $230 that I had to spend just to play WoW in its first year... That and Bungie plans on making this game last a decade and have already been kind enough to give you TWO expansions for $20-25 vs $40 for ONE and now The Taken King which includes everything for just $40... SO if you HAVE been playing, you get cool stuff exclusive to loyal players... If you HAVEN'T been playing, then cool, you get everything for $40... Either way, I don't care if you're a new player or old one, Bungie has CERTAINLY NOT ripped anyone off with the price of the Taken King and all this bellyaching and crybaby BS needs to go because you COULD be paying for server costs, development costs, and even GAME TIME which Bungie has REFUSED to require of you (Don't you dare throw PSN in my face because that was SONY'S decision to require pay to play multiplayer and it's STILL only $50/year which comes out to a measly $4.17/month which is HARDLY 1/3 of what WoW charges)... Anyway, blast away, you'll not get any further responses from me, but I just wanted to throw down some mathematical figures as to why all this crybaby BS is really pointless and you're crying over spilled milk... Boohoo, I payed $40 for every Destiny expansion to date and can play for $4/month now... Least it ain't your soul... (PS: YES, I KNOW WoW changed it up and offers a complete package now for all the previous expansions, but that's AFTER they took all that money for the players who are playing it FIRST and that's EXACTLY why I chose that math to use for this post because it is the EXACT same situation as Destiny right now: You have current expansions being released that people are paying for NOW and not LATER... Good example of the current model of WoW vs Current Destiny would be Taken King for $40 and WoW all the way up to Mists and not including the most recent expansion is $10 on sale plus Draenor which is $30 = $40)[/quote] I didn't read any of your post but I'll make you scroll through it too just to find that out. You stole a moment of my time and now I've stolen one of yours back. Don't think about it too long or you'll have to strike back!

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