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6/20/2015 8:03:33 PM
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Auto Rifle Nerf Destroyed Crucible

Playing crucible now is simply tedious. All it is is endless Thorns and Shotguns. Its now rare to see someone with a Vex, instead virtually everyone has a Thorn or a Hawkmoon, and frankly its boring. Crucible should be renamed TvT = Thorn V Thorn not PvP. I have 2 Thorns and 2 Hawkmmons, and I have scrapped 1 thorn and 2 hawkmoons. They are good guns, but they are destroying crucible. I cannot respect any player who uses a Thorn, a shotgun or a Vex in crucible, they are the ultimate cheese weapons - only noobs, scrubs and bad players run with them in crucible. They have become the new crutch for noobs and bad players, like the Gjallarhorn has become the perpetual crutch of the bad players. The crutch players are unable to play in crucible, without their crutch weapons. , The auto rifle nerf destroyed weapon variety in crucible and has forced bad or average players to use those OP weapons simply to play in the crucible. Bungie need to buff the auto rifles to incentivise players to use different weapons again. Until they do then crucible is like watching a pack of yapping poodles running around pretending they are rottweilers.
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  • [b]Crucible Statistics 2015 - What weapon type was used the most? Interested? Come in![/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/128987977/0/0

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  • 작성자: Mattaki 6/20/2015 8:41:30 PM
    Ya know anytime I play crucible I see a large variety of weapons being used. Auto rifles, scouts, pulse, hand cannon, fusions, shotguns. I rarely see thorns. . Edit: how does buffing one weapon class make a variety if all is used is 1 gun type? You just want op autos again

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    • I used thorn since it was a turd, but now everybody and there grandma runs around with it cause it's the best shit around. Bungie needs to get there shit together.

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      • 작성자: NecroticMadman 6/21/2015 12:11:01 PM
        Crucible was ruined by handcannon buff* I will say though that simply buffing other weapons is viable to fix this issue not specifically nerfing handcannons

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      • I see more shotguns in crucible than I do Thorn

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        • I agree to a extinct but stop whining about stuff it's a game u want to bet throns grab a team of 6 an hit them with 6 throns I'll play pvp but all my friends now if I get shot with thron I'm pulling it out. But I don't say whaaahhh you -blam!-ing noob stop using a game that everybody else has its expected to be seen in every pvp match now just like trails. That I'll never go flawless on cuz I can't ever get a team But I do think they should have a game mode in pvp where certain guns can't b used but that's my opinion

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        • Weapons that beat thorn: red death, messenger,hawkmoon,scholar.

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          • 작성자: atv21 6/21/2015 12:25:46 PM
            While I don't play crucible often, I played a few games yesterday with a group of friends. The only problems I had with any thing was the massive lag. Unloading 3 shotgun shells into a guy and he kept skipping across the map. I have yet to play ToO because I know I'm not the best PvP person but there's no weapons that piss me off that much. Thorn does suck to go against but Alls I do is sit back with mida. I think that's one of the best most under used PvP weapon. Love that gun

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          • Just say what you really mean....you want your suros back

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            • I main a legendary scout rifle... I refuse to use thorn... Save one match a month or so to reassure myself its cheap. Trials is an issue I agree with others in that... But given the right map (widows court) you can definitely roll what you like... Did all three of my flawless on widows with my badger. I think the taken king is going to aim to rebalance in a big big way for crucible... I suspect they aren't making any major patches to weapon classes until then because I think they have more in mind for balance then just adjusting the base stats of the classes.. Not sure what exactly.. But I'm being on a bit of a surprise

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            • I beg to differ. i see far more variety in the crucible since they were nerfed than before. not counting trials it's the most diverse it's been since launch

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              • The only reason Thorn is a 'better' gun now is because Bungie went and nerfed previous 'better' guns. I don't care how powerful the Thorn is, but let the former top rated guns keep their power to give a variety of use within the crucible. I don't use the Thorn because it's boring, but that's my choice

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                • Ghorn is not a crutch it just makes everything easier. You would be stupid not to use it? Now Thorn is just broken. Nothing should a 2 hit kill. That's a crutch

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                  • 작성자: BrothaMob 6/20/2015 9:43:34 PM
                    Yep but Bungie clearly don't give a damn because all threads like these get ignored. I just watched a YouTube video from Briar Rabbit where he clearly explains what PVP has become and offers very insightful ideas and yet again nothing is done by Bungie. I can't wait for Halo 5 & even Black Ops 3 because I'll have much better options when it comes to PVP. I love raiding and some PVE elements of Destiny but the lag and horrible balance in Destiny's PVP is the worst I've seen in any PVP FPS.

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                  • There was no variety before the nerf either, crucible was just a suros fest....

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                    • I normally run a shotgun in my special slot, why? Because it's effective. I think Fellwinters is broken. I think Handcanons themselves are okay, they work as intended. Thorn is the exception not the rule.

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                      • Thorn is perfectly fine but is sad that so many poor bitches rely on it. Shotguns are OP as shit and are for quite unskilled players. Snipers have too much aim assistance and require little skill for headshots. Auto Rifles are terrible and you should never use one. The Last Word is ridiculous at all ranges and is insanely hard to kill. Supers are generally balanced but do have a lot of panic to them. Shoulder Charge is still a major crutch. Sidearms are very nice but deserve a bit more range due to shotguns. Everything else is pretty nice.

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                        • I tried using Red Death to counter hand cannons and it worked out pretty well, I usually get more kills than if I try to use my Hawkie or Thorn

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                          • Biggest goof post on here. Dont tell me how to live my life you lowlife scrub!

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                          • [quote]They have become the new crutch for noobs and bad players, like the Gjallarhorn has become the perpetual crutch of the bad players. The crutch players are unable to play in crucible, without their crutch weapons. ,[/quote] Umm... all the best players use Thorn/TLW/SGs. Why? Because you have to. Complain to Bungie.

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                          • Problem is they were nerfed multiple times and eventually Bungie just buffed the other weapons and we have the meta we have now. Auto rifles took such a hit they aren't even used as much in PVE.

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                            • Dude those auto rifles required no skill. Thank god they nerfed them and those bloody fusion rifles.

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                              • 작성자: xDeFalt 6/21/2015 3:33:46 AM
                                They just need a full weapon class makeover. No matter what anyone says, the ttk for hand cannons is faster than any other weapon type. The range on the shotguns,particularly matador,felwinter and party crasher,or whatever rolls they are, is ridiculous, the universal remote should straight up just be taken out,that weapon was designed for the exact purpose of what every legendary shotgun is apparently able to do now and they do it with better range and a much higher fire rate. I have been experitmentimg with autos and it's just sad,there is no reason to use low,impact autos at all,at most a 2 kill clip if you're lucky,med damage autos still leave plenty of time for the enemy to escape,still a good 2 seconds to drop someone with decent aim. Pulse rifles are doing ok but it's only because you can re-acquire your target with each shot. Scout rifles are few and far between,their range advantage just doesn't come into play often enough to be viable. The game is horribly unbalanced,i caters to one type of setup and makes it so you're almost totally unable to have variety because your ttk is half of what the enemy is. I've decided to just stay away from pvp until it's fixed,i can't handle the overwhelming amount of shotguns and hand cannons, it is in no way fun to be forced to use 2 weapons types. Id like to enjoy experimenting with other weapons but it's just not a possibility because of their utterly obvious crippled status. People will argue all day that I'm wrong about this,but if I was, you wouldn't see 90% of players with at least 1 of the things I mentioned. Easiest way to spot the most unbalanced weapons? See what you're killed by the most.

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                                • I was actually using the summoner earlier today and somehow managed to go positive

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                                • I almost always use Mida or Red Death. ... But i used to swear by my blue Shingen E pre patch.

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                                • Destiny 2 make it so exotics aren't able to be used in crucible. We'll see a bigger variety of weapons (hopefully) and then for PvE we can hopefully use as many exotics as we like. Because I have previewed sunbreakers while wearing praxic fire and the sun bro in me was amazed

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