you are so on the money. a week or so ago there was a post from someone asking for the opposite or something like it. basically just have the teams matched according to skill level not just wins. I wanted some of the rewards from trials so even though I'm horrible at crucible a couple of friends and I gave it a shot. it was comical at best. we didn't win a single match much less a game. I think there are some true 9-0 teams out there that would enjoy what you are suggesting. the real guys want to know who's the best. the people crying are most likely the lagswitchers. just my opinion.

I went 9-0 in trials and I am by no means good at crucible. If I was only put up against others that have gone 9-0 I would get absolutely wrecked. It should probably be based on k/d.

You're generalizing and most people I know like sweaties aka playing teams of similar skill, yes I'm sure there are people that fit into your generalization but again it means nothing.

The game should place players who've gotten the grim Card For The light house with other players who have the Grim Card and if the fire team has 1 or to members that has not gone Flawless then fine but it won't always be that way eventually most people will have gone flawless and there won't be that many None flawless players

Double 9-0 results in LightHouse, single 9-0 does not. Then what? Sure, separate the flawless, give them even better loot drops for double 9-0.

Whenever I see that emblem I laugh. Don't know why kids think it's intimidating. Crota emblem is what scares kids

I say if you haven't gone flawless you should only play flawless players. I wouldn't want you to ruin the chances of another scrub team to make it to the Lighthouse. [spoiler]satire[/spoiler]

Because what happens then if you want to play with your friends who havnt gone flawless but they are then matched into your flawless games? And quit winging anyway my team has never lost to a team that has all flawless emblems, many more close games with people who havnt been to the lighthouse yet. Get some friends and practice. What do you want anyway the skill matchmaking to work on kd? Or wins? If you can work as a team and revives however many kills the other team gets is irrelevant. And no I'm not butthurt about the idea of this at all because I will still go flawless 👍

The're scared!

Hush little baby dont you cry

Because half the pvp kiddos don't want any challenge when they play Osiris

I would rather fight lighthousers. Then I don't worry about them backing out in orbit

Finally a game type you can't cheese and people want to cheese it .. man the world we live in.. where did all the real gamers go? When did the community get watered down... what happened to getting beat and instead of crying nerf you actually get better at the game..

[quote]There's been a lot of discussion about ToO, and one of the more popular ideas to solve problems with this game's lack of skill-based matchmaking was "Make the 9-0ers who went Flawless be separated from general matchmaking and fight other Flawless teams?" ... which has mostly been met with vocal opposition by the Lighthousers. My question is [b]why[/b]? Most posts I see that're like "No don't make the flawless teams fight each other!" are usually the same people that try to preach about how ToO is supposed to be a "for the skilled only" and "haha let's wreck scrubs", etc. ... an air of arrogance surrounds them. There's a feeling of genuine accomplishment and superiority they try to convey when talking about their flawless runs. How many flawless runs they did, and so forth. However, when the idea that they may have to fight [i]equally skilled teams[/i] that whole bravado is replaced by a resounding protest. Buttholes pucker in fear. Testicles coil upwards as they nervously hammer out a response on the forums. If ToO is supposed to be a legitimate "the best of the best" PvP Arena event, this is naturally the only way to truly see who's the best team, so if you're actually good then fighting teams of your own skill-tier shouldn't actually be a problem. The only reason why any Lighthouser should be afraid of a "9-0ers Only" matchmaking would be if they [i]were carried to the Lighthouse[/i] or built their streak cherry-picking for matches against lower leveled, under-equipped teams. There's no denying the logic that the true Crucible beasts should be just fine when fighting teams of the same skill, unless they weren't as good as they claim to be. So what's a legitimate counter-argument to the proposal of a "9-0ers Only" matchmaking?[/quote]I'm a lighthouse visitor. I go on all 3 characters every week. For some reason all I play with are Lighthouse visitors aw well, and It doesn't matter how good you are. I only lose when I play with randoms, and I've already been that week before I play with randoms and I'm only looking for the ship and shader now. Doesn't really matter about skill lvl though. I honestly get better when I'm playing with randoms. The more I'm the last alive, the more I get better.

Not to sound cocky at all but I go to the lighthouse on all 3 characters every single week. Each trials card with my team takes less than 45 minutes even 30 minutes sometimes, reason why are because 90% (possibly larger) of the players I play against are average to complete sh!t. It's not a challenge for me or my team at all and I see it as just another "strike" or "nightfall" like difficulty. I'd like to go up against other lighthouse players or at least sub par decent players that have organized players instead of breezing through trials passages like its nothing. Just my thoughts, skill based matchmaking is needed.

I always wear my ugliest emblem and shader when playing ToO. Flawless teams always seem to underestimate you.

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They should make it to where only one person that's gone flawless that week can be in a fireteam.