But I'm the one using it lmao???! I'm not at all complaining about dying from it. I usually always out gun other thorns because a lot of bad ppl use it. I'm convinced it's a problem because of how much destruction I can cause. Maybe you should learn to read?? TLW is just as bad but I don't think it's as detrimental to the game. So nothing ever has needed a nerf?? Anytime anyone says nerf it's always quit crying wether it needs a nerf or not. Nobody takes people that say quit crying seriously because those are the same people who don't want the game to change for the better and are ok with it staying the same forever. Guess what? Sometimes bungie makes mistakes and a gun or class of guns take the cake in matchmaking. Balance doesn't happen in a day. Things will need nerfed and buffed until they find the sweet spot. Most other competitive gaming communities find destiny to be a joke at the moment. That's what you want? For other communities to rag on the multiplayer because of it's glaring faults. Or to be seen as a bunch of close minded gamers who are blind to it? This games PvP is an afterthought. Way too unbalanced and all potential and very little substance

[quote]But I'm the one using it lmao???! I'm not at all complaining about dying from it. I usually always out gun other thorns because a lot of bad ppl use it. I'm convinced it's a problem because of how much destruction I can cause. Maybe you should learn to read?? TLW is just as bad but I don't think it's as detrimental to the game. So nothing ever has needed a nerf?? Anytime anyone says nerf it's always quit crying wether it needs a nerf or not. Nobody takes people that say quit crying seriously because those are the same people who don't want the game to change for the better and are ok with it staying the same forever. Guess what? Sometimes bungie makes mistakes and a gun or class of guns take the cake in matchmaking. Balance doesn't happen in a day. Things will need nerfed and buffed until they find the sweet spot. Most other competitive gaming communities find destiny to be a joke at the moment. That's what you want? For other communities to rag on the multiplayer because of it's glaring faults. Or to be seen as a bunch of close minded gamers who are blind to it? This games PvP is an afterthought. Way too unbalanced and all potential and very little substance[/quote] The people that are constantly saying this gun is op or that load out is op are worse than people who say quit crying. It's the nerfhurders like yourself who break the games that people are enjoying because you can't adapt and change your play style to overcome the challenge. Just want everything catered to you. This game doesn't have competitive natures, that's why other forums laugh at it. It's not just designed around PvP like a battlefield or CoD, when you constantly cry because you get killed by a weapon or because YOU think a weapon is too good when you use it, it affects parts of the game that the majority want to play, PvE. Yes there has been things that were OP in games before and the debs have systems in place to track that info, they don't need little babies crying nerf every five minutes because they can't figure out how to counter something.

Can't adapt lmao?? I use the gun lol how have I not adapted?? I've adapted and think it's terrible for the game. You just talk without ever addressing my points coherently or correctly. I don't want it catered to me. How could I when all I want is more balance which makes more options viable lol??? Then it's catered to no one. So you couldn't be any more wrong. You are the one defending like it's a personal attack that I say it needs a nerf. Seems like you just enjoy being melodramatic. Also this game was marketed as a competitive shooter as well so idk what you are talking about. I'm guessing you haven't played very many good online shooters if you think this is as perfect as you imagine in your head. You are so afraid of change it's ridiculous. Nothing gets better if we stay the same

[quote]Can't adapt lmao?? I use the gun lol how have I not adapted?? I've adapted and think it's terrible for the game. You just talk without ever addressing my points coherently or correctly. I don't want it catered to me. How could I when all I want is more balance which makes more options viable lol??? Then it's catered to no one. So you couldn't be any more wrong. You are the one defending like it's a personal attack that I say it needs a nerf. Seems like you just enjoy being melodramatic. Also this game was marketed as a competitive shooter as well so idk what you are talking about. I'm guessing you haven't played very many good online shooters if you think this is as perfect as you imagine in your head. You are so afraid of change it's ridiculous. Nothing gets better if we stay the same[/quote] Now you're just talking out your ass. The game was marketed as a shared world shooter implying an open world RPG. Never was it marketed as a FPS competetive multiplayer. How is it not balanced? There are many ways to counter the gun itself and many more that can flat out beat it. With a TTK being so low and so many ohk's there is no reason to believe that this game isn't balanced do to just the Thorn. It's not throwing the balance of the game off to the point it is game breaking so how can it be OP?

Look when you choose a playlist. Says competitive right there in the description lol the trailers spoke of a "competitive multiplayer experience" It changes the game in a negative way in my opinion(something you don't seem to have a grasp on). It's OP. Anyone can see that with the over saturation of the weapon in PvP Idc what you say because I believe it is a bad addition. You will see when a nerf comes, and it is coming. Don't fool yourself on that. Then who will be the one "crying" lol?