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작성자: Stari 5/7/2015 1:46:30 PM
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Read THIS Bungie, your loot system FAILS!!!!

2895 Grimoire Score (For what? Apparently it means NOTHING in this game.) My stats (possible loot chances): - Warlock: 11 days 1 hour - Hunter: 14 days 18 hours - Titan: 24 days 1 hour - 700 STRIKES - More then 1000 CRUCIBLE matches - 180 RAIDS - EVERY Nightfall last 6 months (with 3 different characters) ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Someone from Bungie, please explain to me why i still didn't get all the exotics? (in my case a *******, which is being dropped A LOT!). If the loot is RANDOM, why always the same people are getting it? Does RANDOM mean that players like me will NEVER get specific weapons? After playing for 50 days, it seems so. Fix that, please!!! Is it that difficult to program the loot system to skip people which already got a specific loot 3x, so other people in the Fireteam will make a chance to get it? I play games for more then 30 years now and have NEVER felt deceived like with Destiny. Untill now, my every game i achieved what i wanted. Unfortunally this is not the case in this game. A waste of 50 days of my life. At first they make me addicted to this game and then they **** me. [b]If i didn't get all the exotic weapons after playing Destiny for 50 days.....then A LOT of players will NEVER get them. Is this the motivation for them to play Destiny further?[/b]

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  • I have more game time then you do technically I have had 5 32'a and 3 30's with full set of IB and Raid gear I currently have ALL Exotics on Xbox 1 maxed out and I constantly dismantle doubles I have 3 rare faction shaders and a ship I dismantled 2 32's (warlock and Titan) and shared all their gear and made 2 more Hunters who all have full raid sets from both Vaults I don't know where you are playing, but I don't have any problems with getting Exotics or Legendaries

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  • I've gotten 300x more exotic weapon drops since ive gotten all of them. I went through an 8 week drought after TDB dropped where I literally didn't get one. Then broke it and finished up with gally vex and the crux in a 2 week span and then boom. 2 exotics every week from nightfall, I'm yet to run a raid grind where I don't come out with 2 exotics at least every week. I had a last word drop on a doc strike and thunderlords out of the ass. There's def something up

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  • You didn't [i]have[/i] to play your chances with a gambling system of which you knew how it worked.

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  • I cant even get a black hammer lol

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  • Believe it or not; took 5 weeks off from the game. Played daily since day 1, wanted gally never got it. Came back on after the 5 week break and got it from the gorgon chest.

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      Kinda agree I have yet to receive a Monte Carlo

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    • 작성자: biribu 5/6/2015 1:22:36 PM
      Bungie's interpretation of RANDOM Upon account creation (not a character) lock out one of valuable Exotics to assure never ending grind....

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      • So you edit this saying it's not about Gjallarhorn, it's just about the one exotic you can't get. Then when I look at your Grimoire the only weapon you don't have is a Gjallarhorn. That leads me to believe you posted this just because you don't have a Gjallarhorn. Hope you get it soon... It's the best. I love mine.

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        • I get Suros like it's my job.... witnessed my buddy getting his 15th gally yesterday. Yes, I have A gally.... but why do I get soo many of certain exotics? Are all loot tables different?

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        • Agree . Why do I keep getting payback SOS from nightfall !! !!!

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        • 작성자: Pathorix 5/6/2015 3:28:31 PM
          I have a few opinions on the matter of loot in this game. A few of these are apparent and actually happening to people (myself included) I believe in some way or another (I cannot, and wouldn't take the time to, show you numbers) that the loot is predetermined. You have a set loot table per character, and those items drop for you. Some items may not be in that table, thus, never getting the items. It's just a hunch, and I am more than likely wrong. But it feels like it. It shouldn't feel like it. Everything you get doesn't feel random at all. Truly random would leave you surprised. Even if it's a duplicate item. Perhaps we think too far into it and the random chance of one of these items (not being many items in the game just yet) dropping isn't that low, so we get them frequently. It could have been that Gjallarhorn or Hawkmoon, but it randomly chose the 5th Icebreaker instead, randomly. It's just so random on so many different levels that it breaks itself in every possible way leading it into a crazy inception style random rngesus that implodes into itself while deciding what loot to give you. I think it's either WAY TOO SIMPLE, or WAY TOO COMPLEX. Bungie had a philosophy with Destiny. They wanted to emphasize the importance of Destiny being majorly an Action Shooter game, with some rpg elements. They said this many times. If this is the case, why make it so damn near impossible to acquire a tool in the arsenals, ENTIRELY DEFEATING THE PURPOSE of the simplicity in an action game. This is a shooter. We should have some fraction of an ability to perhaps work towards unlocking the items we need. Making some things truly random as the only means of attaining said item is kind of bullshit, because we are all playing this shooter together, we should have to tools necessary to participate in the game. Some powerful weapons or armor totally counters other weapons and armor. If one person has it over another, they could completely mop the floor with you effortlessly. If you had the proper tools, or the necessary requirements met, you too could gain access to that power and be able to at least counter the weapon / armor that was wrecking your face to begin with. I'm not saying to be handed all the good items in the game for free. But there should at least be some sort of progressive system that allows you to work towards a powerful item, but you earned it, and went through hardships and trials and tribulations trying to get it in the first place. Making its power all the more appreciated when you finally receive the item you worked for. That's how I think every single piece of equipment in this game should work. Every single exotic piece of gear should have an in depth quest line that takes you on a perilous journey with lots of annoying and challenging things to do during the journey making that experience something to remember when you finally grab that weapon from the pedestal you took it from deep within that vault on Venus last week. Things like this would fix the loot system. You would have it, if you took the time to earn it. If you didn't have it, you would know that there is a way to get it, so you can have it too. It would create way more depth, rather than some random system deciding whether or not you can get to 32 this week, or maybe some day down the road (current situation with my warlock) My extremely long rant. But sometimes you just got to lay it all out there. I probably missed some things too. Pardon any grammatical errors. I didn't proofread this, it's a lot to go thru, and I'm not really feeling nit-picky at the moment. But if you read all that then let's hear what you think. Cheers! Edit - on a final note, what I have typed up here would ENTIRELY, COMPLETELY, DESTROY the debate of whether you earned something or not. Just thought I'd put this here too. Because it's true.

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          • I hate the term RNG, when in reality it's WNG. Weighted Number Generator. For something to be TRULY random all probabilities have to be equal. Ofcourse it can be KINDA random, but that defies the definition itself.

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            • Just wait till HoW. They've already acknowledged the broken loot system and said it will be fixed in the DLC.

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            • [spoiler]And NO, this is NOT a Gjallarhorn topic! [/spoiler] I see #gjallarhorn [spoiler]Filthy liar[/spoiler]

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            • To that last edit..... It seems like a ghorn post.

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            • Another G horn post? Ugh these will never die, but neither will I with my 4 g horns in the last two weeks. I'm starting to dismantle em now

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              • You are asking for an answer as to why, in a random loot system, you still don't have every exotic given the amount of time you have played. I don't think you really understand how a random loot system works, and unfortunately, I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain it to you. Maybe Google "random loot system"?

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              • When anyone gets annoyed about the RNG just watch this, makes me laugh every time http://youtu.be/Ylp583mJa2Q

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                • Just got my 5th gally. Need truth

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                  • I think we need an in depth discussion of what random means... But what you're asking for is a non random drop mechanic. I'm not saying it's good or bad but might as well be clear on what were talking about here.

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                    • If I could give you one of my three I would.

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                    • I agree with you. It does not make sense to keep hindering guns from players. We lose a lot of time. And keep getting disappointment over and over pushing us to the edge up to feel this is not worth my time anymore. The RNG should be weighted. To make sure the player get all the tools (Guns armors) available. Just let them chose what they want to use. Player is smart enough to find fun out of the game. Just let us use all the options. I don't want Xur sell it either. Just make the RNG...first rewarding all the gun that available. Or Just make Exotic bounties. So we can earn the guns.

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                    • I have a friend that's gotten 10 ghorns. Crazy shit.

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                    • I got Gjallarhorn from the crucible yesterday. My advice[spoiler]git gud[/spoiler][spoiler]Kappa[/spoiler]

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                    • i got Gjallarhorn from vog last night from the chest and hawkmoon

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                    • I knew this was a gjallahorn whine post.

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