Poll can't be accurate because kids will do anything to keep ez mode thorn in pvp.

I think that this is not going to be accurate. If you look at the numbers,how many of the "no's" use it exclusively in any crucible game! These are the people that use it as a crutch weapon and can't compete without it! I believe that I am speaking for most of the "yes's" by stating this. If all that you see in trials and iron banner is the thorn, than why not make a standard load out for every player across the board!?

Fûck u bungie. Money hungry thieving dog faces. Why the fûck is the fûcking dlc sooo fûcking expensive. This is a massive slap in the face for ppl who were playing since beta. Like me for example. I enjoy destiny and play regularly. But I can't believe u guys have the guts to make a price like that. And the worse thing is the 20 dollar pack where u get nothing but a class item. Shader emblem. And other useless shit. -blam!- u bungie. U treat loyal players like shit. But u give the new players everything for just 60 dollars. I preordered destiny for 100. Then I spend 40 on a dlc pack. Am now they want loyal players to pay another 40 fûcking dollars for more dlc. Fûck out of here bungie. We hate u. All you care bout is the money. Traitors. Thieves. Liars. Cûnts. Scrubs. I hope u go all die. With 40 dollars worth of coins shoved up your money loving ass. [spoiler]seperate fûck u to Luke smith. I hope u die. U money stealin bîtch faced -fûckhead!-. Stop robbing ur loyal players like that. Make the dlc worth what it really is. I seriously would be happy with 25 dollars or at least 30. Just don't treat us like shit[/spoiler]

Why does the graph show up differently after you make a selection, than it does initially? when I check this post, it looks like undecided is in front, yet after voting, it shows no as leading.

Bump! I think that it would be nice to have a vote on many of the requested changes. Of course, it needs to be able to limit the voting to one vote per person.

At least make it easier to get if you're not going to nerf it

As hard as it is to get the Thorn it should be op. I even think the burn should last a split second longer.

Needs nerfing, gives bad players a chance to win. Glad pulse rifles were buffed as I used them from the start (halo reminiscence!) The thing that gets me is how unbalanced the whole crucible experience is. Even more so in trials / iron banner. Blank weapons should be equipped to everyone, then, true skill would prevail seeing as everyone starts the same. This poll is a waste of time because 95% of players use the thorn to win ToO, so will obviously vote no and say stuff like 'stop crying'. Any experienced gamer knows imbalance when they see it. Other stuff that needs to be sorted in my opinion - One hit melees One hit grenades No supers in crucible Neutral heavy ammo spawns instead of multiple Spawning with no special ammo would make the games wholly more entertaining as it would add a little more strategy Thorn tends to only be OP in close quarters, as most people who use it need it to win, they are generally pretty bad at aiming, long range maps they will lose, that was proven with widows court, all the shotgun & thorn combos didn't know what to do. Anyways, I'm a peaceful guy so remember when you call me a cry baby or a game ruiner, I simply do not respect your opinion if you have no structured argument or response. However if you do have a reply without resorting to name calling and have valid points, I'll more than happily debate this stuff with you :) Bye now.

If anything the last word should be nerfed that things time to kil is faster than a ghorn rocket hitting you directly.

All hand cannons need a nerf all they have to do is completely remove the -blam!-ing aim assistance on all hand cannons and a little nerf to there stability

It already recieved its nerf. It sucks. The orgional thorn was a true op hand cannon.

Screw a nerf.....JUST BUFF THE AR. They are worthless even in PVE.

Just buff my suros back to its former glory