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3/28/2015 8:24:52 AM
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Why do people act like grimoire means anything?

I have 3 32s played since launch. All exotics save one. All raid weapons, etc. I don't play crucible or pick up dead ghosts so why does grimoire matter?
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  • 작성자: xbob lv 3/28/2015 5:29:15 PM
    A grimoire score under 2000 and I know the player does not have a lot of time in the game. Other than that it does not matter. Its good info to form a strategy around to beat the raid. Common problems with lower grimoire guardians in CE raid. 1) crystal room running around like Rambo and dies. 2) in ogre room after first ogre is dead either a) uses rockets while jumping and shoots into chains causing a wipe b) runs in front of other players with rocket launchers causing a wipe c) stands with a sniper rifle constantly in beam of 2nd ogre causing a wipe. 3) not having armor that heals 4) not knowing that class abilities heal 5) not having a red death or Suros 6) doesn't known how to avoid taking damage. 7) unleveled guns and armor. 8) no heavy ammo synths. And don't get me started on level 32 VoG virgins. If the player has a >2700 score I know that I don't have to worry about the player.

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    • I have nothing better to do, that's why I maxed it out.

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    • You've still gotta get the exclusives. More grinding in September.

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    • 작성자: Un1337ninj4 3/28/2015 3:43:44 PM
      *The following assumes you've hurdled 2500, at which point you've likely used all weapon types, killed all the Patrol, Story, Strike, and Raid bosses, and have found most of the Ghosts. Finding all the Ghosts only raises your score by ~500 points, given you've killed all the Story, patrol, and Raid bosses everything there-after will only ever raise it by five meager points. You have to up your score sixty times to get to 2800. If you do the Ogre and Hydra farms you're likely to only get 20 of those 300 points. All the rest is straight-up PvP. I don't care how much of a badass you think you are in PvE, I don't care how bad you are in the Crucible. If you take the time to learn from PvP you WILL gain experience from that which does transfer over to PvE. By first hand experience I and everyone who HAS a high grimoire knows, you don't just pick up points and ghosts to get to 2700. That number is reserved for those who have spent an egregious amount of time in all facets of this game.

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    • I found all the ghosts because its part of the game and there was a trophy at 50ish that I need to get guardian lord. Grimoire represents how completely you've played destiny. If you don't care about playing all the different parts your Grimoire will reflect that, but I don't see why that bothers you?

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    • 작성자: RebornV3 3/28/2015 3:40:38 PM
      Grimore doesn't equal skill or how good a player is but mostly experience lets just say the higher someones grimore the more I'm inclined to care or listen about there opinion on Destiny related matters.

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    • Here's a little story about grimoire: Once upon a time Level 30 was the level cap, and it was really hard to attain. Elitists liked to use their max level status to lord over others, both in he game and on the forums. Then the DLC came out and vendor gear surpassed their VoG raid gear and threw all their "status" out the window. Their worlds shattered around them as they witnessed "newbs" buying their way to Level 31. They realized max level was too fragile and temporary to be used as a tool to lord over their underlings. And the grimoire elitism was born. You are apparently not a good player unless you've grinded out thousands of kills with weapons you don't enjoy using, played a ton of PvP that you probably hate, or spent a few hours running around picking up ghosts. A few days ago I was sitting around 2050 grimoire. I've been playing since early November, around 250 hours, raided both raids numerous times and I'm a good teammate. My grimoire was "low" because I rarely play PvP and I hadn't bothered picking up the last 58 ghosts I needed because I always had better things to do with my time in the game. The other night I was bored and found the ghost tracker website and decided to spend a couple of hours picking up all the ghosts, more so because I wanted some new grimoire to read. Magically I went from 2050 grimoire to just over 2500. In the eyes of the elitists I went from a scrub to a good player in a couple of hours. Do they realize how stupid this is? I'm still the player I was before I picked up all the ghosts, the only difference is I know more of the lore and I've had to explore a few new areas to get them. Grimoire is just a number, you're either a good player or you're not. If Bungie ever gets rid of grimoire score I wonder what the elitists will use as their stat of greatness then?

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      • 작성자: Εφιάλτης 3/28/2015 2:55:43 PM
        It takes time to reach the grimoire I have. Time and skill is put into a high grimoire. The pvp side of it I believe is where you have to atleast be an average player. If you can't pvp.. chances are you aren't that good.

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        • Because! How do I know if you're good if you haven't spent 100s of hours farming caves and grinding away at pointless mobs with weapons you never use

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        • Because besides light level, it's the only way to estimate how much experience a player has

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          • There are lots of points for ghosts yes, but there are tons of pvp, pve kills, weapon use, public events, patrol kills and specific mob downs as well. It provides a general guideline for how much effort youve put into the game. Even if people just watched a guide on youtube, theres a dedication and effort in getting the ghosts. I have never had a shitty hard mode raid (Vog or CE) with a pug when scores are 2500+ Even if its just the conversation and banter, those people have have seen/done more. Agreed it is not directly related to gamer skill though.

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          • PvP is a a good part of this game. Not playing it means your only experiencing half a game. Grimoire is great to show how much time you have invested. No everyone is going to go in your profile and see what you have done and how many times. So having a high grimoire helps people know how much time you have played.

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          • Indicates how much of the game you've played,and how long.This generally translates to a higher skill level,not always.

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            • Pvp grimoire.... I don't care how good anyone thinks they are, by the time a person finishes the pvp grimoire, they will definitely improve regardless of skill level before they embarked on completing the pvp grimoire. Can't be backpacked on the road to kill 5000 warlocks, 5000 titans, 5000 hunter, or accrue 5000 kills AS a warlock, AS a Titan, AS a hunter. Throw in 100 rumble match wins (no getting back packed there). Raid completions? Anyone does anything 50 times and he/she will know every nook and cranny, know that raid in/out/backwards/forwards. Overall, grimoire means shit. But there are some portions of it which DO tend to show a higher skill/experience level. For the record, I do not think killing a bunch of shit on patrol w a shotty builds skill. I do not think standing in front of the black garden portal farming the hydras builds skill. they gave us this scoring system for grimoire. Some people don't have anything left to do but reach for max. For me, it's the only thing left to achieve in-game. On that note, Bungie, please turn up the volume of vip patrols and please give us salvage more often? Pretty -blam!-ing please? I'm sick of going to each planet driving around on my sparrow looking for those damn vip patrols which turn up next to never.

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            • Unlike everything else in destiny, its the only variable that's not RNG. So basically your gm score kind of represents your skill, since you can't really say that its RNG. It means that the player has done more, so therefore they're more experienced and in a way- a better player.

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              • High grimoire score = more experience. I'd rather have someone with a 2000+ grimoire score on my raid team than someone with a 1700 just because it means that the 1700 is new and might not know any raid mechanics or just doesn't have any good guns. The 1700 could be more skilled, but you can never be too careful when playing with randoms.

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                • It means someone has tried to play all aspects of the game. It doesn't always mean they are the best. but one thing is true they have a good understanding on what works and doesn't work in this game.

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                • I don't care for it, it doesn't define me or how I play. There is no skill in finding a ghost. I'm not trying to offend anyone that cares for it, just my opinion

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                • Grimoire is like achievements or gamer score in destiny. If it's below 2000 you most likely don't have many exotics so your in the lvl 28-30 range. If it's around 2200 then you probably 32

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                • Since this game has No actual content, it's the only lore and information some gamers want.

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                  • It doesn't mean anything. I've played with people who have 2700+ grimoire who're garbage. Like they weren't capable of completing roc strikes. My friends have about the same as you and mine is slightly higher and at least we're pretty good.

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                  • A player with a high score is a player that "has been around", nothing more, he's not necessarily better than you at a particular activity. I do think that its a good sign, a player that plays both raids, both pve and pvp, that explores the world of Destiny, its a player with a broader vision and knlowledge. Should they be elitists? Nope, but they surely have gotten their money's worth. I don't understand the "recent" trend of being a fulltime-Crota-raiding-32-gear-only-or-kicked thing.

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                  • Boosts of glimmer when you kill so many certain types of enemies

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                  • Some people use the grimoire as a measuring stick of how good you are as a player when it's nothing of the sort. I was in a raid group with ransoms and the fire team leader refused to take anyone in to crotas end on hard with a grimoire score under 2200. One guy (a 32) joined from the forums with a grimoire score of 1800+ and was immediately branded a Christmas noob and was told he was going to get booted. A few of the fire team recognised the banner the player was using as the queens wrath banner so he'd been playing since the first couple of weeks but family and work meant his time was limited. The fireteam leader however had a score of 2400+, around 200 - 250 hours and openly bragged about playing after school and all weekend since he got the game. Bottom line is anyone can pick up ghosts, find golden chests and so on but shouldn't be used to say whether or not it makes you a good or bad player. I suck at PvP and I'm probably average at the pve and my grimoire is around 2700.

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                    • 작성자: Klethe 3/28/2015 2:31:11 PM
                      Means I just saw and know more than u about the game, easy.

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                      • Grimoire shows you how good at the game you are in my opinion, unless your a no life, which makes you good at the game in a bad way

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