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작성자: dazarobbo
3/18/2015 5:31:12 AM
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A Roc please sir, hold the cheese.
Just finished playing some strikes from the Roc playlist and was amazed at the number of players cheesing certain sections.
[i]Archon Priest[/i]
Players sniping from the cliff or on the ketch while clearing the 3 waves of vex.
Players sniping the boss from up on the cliff.
[i]Nexus[/i]
Players staying up on the ledge or in the cheesing spot during the boss fight.
[i]Phogoth[/i]
Players sniping from the shrieker room, never really being able to contribute seeing as how the rest of us have him aggro'd down the other end of the room.
Why do people do this? Is it laziness, or just old-fashioned scrubbery? Funnily enough, these players usually finished with less than half as many kills, yet were consistently awarded the best loot.
"Oh look, you got 33 kills, have a Mida Multi Tool".
"What's that, sir? You were dead most of the strike? Legendary Engram".
*Shakes fist at sky* "Curse you RNG! Curse you.
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Interesting. I tend to consider "cheese" to be stuff that breaks the believability of the mission to do - like pushing through a wall to skip a room. I've killed Phogoth from the Shrieker room, Sekrion from the cliff top, and Aksor from the rock shelf near the entrance. I don't tend to do any of these things because actually, they are no easier than moving closer in. They are also no fun. But I don't consider them being cheese. If I'm paired on a strike with two others who want to do it that way, I'm not going to complain. I'm just happy if they aren't chatty racist/sexist/fascist idiots. The Crota chasm cross without the bridge counts as cheese because I have to dodge invisible kill-zones - but really this is just poor level design. Bungie should have worked out what the maximum in-flight distance could be. Make the chasm twice as wide, make the bridge last twice as long, and the sword last 10 seconds more. No more cheese. Do not tell me that the extra COMPLETELY EMPTY SPACE takes too much processing power to include, because I won't believe you. The same is true about the strikes - the AI is dreadful to allow any of these cheeses. Why can't the Vex spawns (which let's face it, make no sense anyway) chase the party back up the path instead of standing in line to be shot? or teleport in surrounding the players wherever they were? Why don't the gobs and hobbos and harpies in Sekrion teleport onto the ledge if that is where the attackers are? Why doesn't Phogoth hide around the corner until the players come out? If Aksor followed the players back down the path, it would be a more interesting game. Or if he just headed off the other way and boarded a ship - e.g. Aksor escapes, players lose. It's a mind-numbingly stupid contrived fight in the first place. Why did we let him out? Why does he fight instead of run? To make up for these inconsistencies, and to save Bungie from having to build a bigger end-boss-room with a layout that wasn't just "circular arena with cover", I have to fight at shotgun range.
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작성자: Squeeze A Snack 3/18/2015 2:21:56 PMIs dancing on the devil walker cheese? Is sliding under phogoth to release his hellhounds cheese. Is popping a bubble in the first room of omnigal where all the thrall come to get blinded then punched out cheese? Is riding septic tank eyebot cheese? If yes to any I am guilty!!!!!!
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Tbh being up top on nexus is harder than down below. That minotaur is a demi god. nexus still can kill you up there if your not careful/team mates are not dicks. didn't know people still do phogoth in thay room. Maybe it's just your unlucky. Archos priest it's nice to have a solo dude up top while others clear the minions, makes it quicker.
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I only really play that way during nightfalls, or if I have the complete strike without dying bounty. Otherwise, I try not to cheese, but it depends on what has been happening earlier, I've played with fireteams that just leave you dead and don't bother reviving you, two sides to the coin I say..
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I agree with all but the archon priest one if u wanna snipe from there fine whatever. In nexus it's easier to go down in my opinion and in phogoth why the hell would u state in the back room one person could stun lock phogoth with a sniper and the other two can take everything else it's so easy
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2 답변To be fair the Ketch ship spot, if we're both thinking the same place, is just a good sniper position. Also that ledge in Nexus is tame compared to the spot my friends know and use during the nightfall. At least on that ledge a Minotaur spawns and attempts to destroy you. The spot I know of, you won't receive incoming fire unless you poke your head out. Truthfully though I don't care what you do, as long as you are killing the enemy, you're cool in my book. Except for glitching and hacking those are always bad in my book.
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3 답변the only thing i "Cheese" is the devil walker, sit back and snipe just cause its quicker than actually running up and taking fire
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If you don't like people playing this way on Roc strikes then simply play with 2 friends and never play with randoms. It doesn't really matter to me how someone else plays as long as they are not AFK. Maybe they're trying to complete the Strike without Dying bounty or just aren't that skilled. I don't know and it doesn't bother me.
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2 답변am i doing it right? https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/5ce1ee7c-5198-4d06-b904-5f15dee2cb3c?gamerTag=wok75&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469 i pushed them off twice by there xD https://www.bungie.net/en/Legend/PGCR/1/4611686018430786170/2305843009289855956/2088122925 they got luner elergy which is one of the shaders i don't have yet
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6 답변Is there even a way to play this game without "cheesing" "YOU HID BEHIND COVER, YOURE CHEESING" "YOU USED A SNIPER, YOURE CHEESING" This is getting ridiculous and you people should feel stupid for thinking that people that do this shit are cheating. ITS IN THE GAME FOR A REASON. And how does that shit affect you anyway? Little billy is sniping from a cliff instead of rushing in with a shotgun like a crazy idiot... Only difference is that he's not gonna die as fast as you guys. 1300+ hours and I will gladly "cheese" the living shit out of this game the very little times I still play it
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4 답변That isn't cheesing..cheesing is exploiting the game, finding and using glitches to your advantage. These guys are just sniping far off in the distance. That's using tactics.
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10 답변None of what you mentioned are cheeses.... Standing in a spot where you won't get hit isn't a cheese.
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Lol. OP is that guy that's farming the minions that spawn around the boss of strikes while everyone else is DPSing the boss to get done with the strike as quickly as possible; then at the end of the game he compares kills. GG n00bs I killed so much moar than u!!
