Title is self explanatory, use these and you have no skill. Absolute joke how broken felwinters lie is, outclassed every other shotgun. Edit: please keep posting, I'm loving some of the responses. I'm a noob for calling other people noobs? Wrong. Please keep biting. I'm expecting a nerf for both of these weapons in the next update. People keep referring to the felwinters lie rate of fire being low. Its doesn't matter how slow it is when you're one-shotting people from miles away. NERF PLEASE. EDIT: 1000 replies!! So many noobs using these two guns! Beware when entering the crucible guardians!