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DeeJにより編集済み: 2/4/2015 3:45:23 PM
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Crucible Feedback.

What do you like about the Crucible? Why do you play PVP? How can the Crucible be better? In which directions would you like for it to evolve? Please keep it clean. Opinions are welcome. Attacks against people who disagree with you are not. I'm hoping we can create a safe place for people to express themselves sincerely. Thank you! UPDATE No. 1: Lot's of awesome feedback so far. Could use more positive reinforcement as to why you play? What's good? UPDATE No. 2: Thanks to all who posted here. There is no way that I could answer every one of you with acknowledgement of your thoughts, but please know that our PVP design team enjoyed this thread. This feedback loop is long. Updating Destiny takes time. Keep talking to us. You are being heard.

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  • Buff Exotic Handcannons and Nerf Auto Rifles

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    • -blam!- you, DeeJ. You know you don't care.

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      • Rebalancing all the weapons for pvp would be great right now. Not gonna lie but pvp turned into an insta-kill fest because of the average ttk is kinda similar to battlefield 4 with the exception of a few guns ttk somewhat similar to call of duty (The Last Word and Thorn being at the top) which obviously doesn't fit well together. I say it's best to look at all weapon types equally than nerfing just hand cannons into oblivion.

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      • 6v6 pvp endgame content would be great too. There's a lot of potential with IB too.

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      • Just get some dedicated servers and I will buy anything you tell me too.

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      • Nerf HC

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      • Nerf thorn

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      • Can we add in a special playlist or PvP event to include random burns in crucible? I'm really disappointed with only ONE event every month. At least run Iron Banner on the first, and this on the 15th. That way it requires people to switch up their playstyles.

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      • MightyGodfatherにより編集済み: 7/10/2015 5:02:23 AM
        Nerf final round, nerf shot package, buff Ars and fusion rifles back to where they where, make more long ranged choke points in maps and make shoulder charge have a 5 second cool down.. And that's it. Edit: add OPTIONAL Matchmaking in everything, ranked playlists, Fusions are the most inconsistent weapons in the game get the spread back to where it was and the most important thing NERF BLINK !!!!!.

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      • Protection should be removed on supers. For instance, if I shoot a titan charging to use fist of panic, if I shoot him with golden gun from point blank range he should die not have a sliver of health left.

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      • Make a ranked matchmaking

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      • Surely the first thing that should be done with PvP is sort out the connetion issues, too many games being ruined by laggy connections that are either lag switching or just really bad connections for anoher reason - why am I being put with players with this connection, and then having my experience lowered (balanced) to compensate for Laggy Laggerson?? You MUST be hearing this, from more than just me. Speak to any regular Trials or IB player and they will report this is the case in so many games EVERY DAY. I love Destiny, have made a 40+ strong clan and we embrace the community aspect of it but this is something that the PvP players in our clan talk about on a daily basis. I'd love to see that this is being noticed and solutions are being iinvestigated.

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        • I took a break from the game about a month after the dark below launched, simply because i burned out. I started playing again with house of wolves and i regained my love for the game. I like pvp and i now feel like the game has shifted from everyone using the suros, to everyone using the thorn or hawkmoon if they were fortunate enough to get it. It sort of feels like you must use one of these or you can't put up a fight, especially in trials. In trials it is common to see a fireteam full of thorns, and you'll almost never see an auto rifle. I have a lot of nice weapons that i like, but i know they will never be better than my hawkmoon and every time i try a new weapon i switch back in frustration. Usually because i got ganked 5 times by a thorn.

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        • Reading through these comments I have yet to see a single person ask for a Playlist with more supers. If anything it's a bunch of people asking to remove them

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          • Maybe you missed the thousands of people telling you what a mistake it was to nerf auto rifles? Ever consider experimenting a little bit? keep the range where it is but restore the damage? right now you took what was one of the most fun classes of gun to play with and made them the absolute weakest weapon of all

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          • Why don't you offer this kind of questions for pve? It was built to be the core of the game but is a neglected shell! Give us cutscenes, lore that makes sense, answers to the 10000 questions we have. How he heck am I hero for killing a black heart when I have no clue what the darkness is? There is so much here to be explored but we are confined to a linear circle track

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            • WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE YOURSELF IN YET DJ? Huh? Tune in on the next Episode on how to kill your *Beep*-self... $-_-$ all I hear is MONEY...

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            • Game types like trials of elitists are divisive and have split the community, people even pay to get carried through it. The other thing that has ruined it for me is the lag.

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            • Players with terrible connection should not have the advantage, love the drops that I've gotten though

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            • Deej i have a couple praises for it and couple not. 1. I will not bring up weapons cause thats both pve and pvp issue. 2. I would like to see maps more long distance oriented so i feel like there is more use for my scout rifle and fusion rifle. I use fusion rifle but i feel like theres more close quarters friendly areas then long. aka more use for shotguns especially at control points. 3. More rotation on maps and bring skyshock, Bastion, and first like back to control. it feels like im playing on cauldron asylum twilight gap and exodus blue every other time. and i loved the idea of having vechicles during control matches. made it a lot more fun. 4. Private Matches would be fun since i could get some practice in on some weapons and really test distance. 5. Love the newer map designs especially European Zone. 6. Reason for playing crucible well in short its fun. Have my own pvp set and weapons set and i since i use the same sniper rifle for both pve and pvp i jsut get better with it even more as time goes on. Yea it can frustrating but come on what multiplayer competitive mode doesnt have frustrations. i played cod and battlefield trust me ive seen and experienced in both as well. 7. I have an idea for a new game mode and this one the game Warframe made me think of it. Have once a month a game mode that only allows certain weapons such as 1 month only AR's, Fusion Rifles, and Rocket Launchers allowed in. It allows players to use weapons all from the same category so no "Exotic Handcannons are too OP and AR's cant stand up to them". To me this be a more skilled oriented mode since it brings players on a more even weapons ground. Yes have exotics in there but now itll be more Suros vs Suros for instance. Not everyone has i get that part but that doesnt mean that just cause u dont have an exotic AR u cant do well. cause some legendary weapons are pretty damn good. heck even one week u could have no exotic weapons. just a thought.

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            • Lol, who revived this ? It's a good thing you did because my current view of the Crucible has changed somewhat. What I now think of it is that Thorn, TLW, Hawkmoon. Thanks, and DeeJ tell the team awesome job at balancing your game.

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            • 2 words, bungie... [spoiler]PRIVATE[/spoiler] [spoiler]MATCHMAKING[/spoiler]

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            • The crucible is the worst multiplayer ever made.

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            • In the current meta, the crucible increasingly lacks weapon variety. To solve this overall weapons need a bit of rebalancing, no matter how it's done weather be buff/nerf, fact is that for competitive play (and increasingly, even casual playlists) everyone's favorite thorn and last word dominate by far as the predominantly used weapon. There's enough posts screaming nerf them, or buff auto rifles, so I won't delve into that. But something must be done in that area of balancing, because when everyone is using the same weapon it gets extremely stale extremely quickly. (Whether they're OP or not is a non issue, I take down thorn/last word users just fine; it's the variety) -In short: tweak auto rifles, currently useless and hand canons, currently over used to reach a happy medium. -Note: the mythoclast needs to also be fixed from its decrepit nerfing with the fusion rifle nerf, it was also an effective alternative to hand cannons, but it's become quite unreliable now. -Fusion rifles in general may deserve a second look at, perhaps a mid point between where they currently are and where they were would be a viable alternative to shotguns. We saw this during the accidental un-nerf where many people began to use them. ---- Balancing aside I also think the following would improve the crucible experience: -Spawns in ToO: Often times one spawn side has an undeniable advantage over the other, and so the team that spawns there has a handicap from the beginning, this takes away from the even footing and skill based competition it's supposed to be. For fairness spawns should switch during the game, granting a level playing field. -Overall more playlists, including some non-competitive: we all remember rocket races, grifball, etc from Halo, and the fun they used to be as essentially "screw around" playlists, and while I'm not saying destiny must be made to copy halo, what I am saying is those playlists were fun, and fun is whats important in a game (I think?), and so perhaps similarly unorthodox playlists would be welcomed as periodic appearances. Feel free to agree and disagree on any or all my suggestions, I understand not everyone will hold a similar opinion, and that's fine-- good infact, as diverse opinions are vital to a growing game.

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              • Better matchmaking, I hate paying PvP because my back hurts from carrying my team every game. -_-

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              • Two things spring to mind: 1) Weapon rebalance - Hand cannons are far too dominant since 1.1.1, they do a scout rifle's job and they do it better. I suggest a buff to the other three primary weapon types or a nerf to at least the hand cannons long-range capabilities. Also - Thorn has been a thorn in too many players' side, too much and for too long. The Mark needs a rework because it is just too crippling for the victim compared to other exotic perks. It needed the rework yesterday, not in ten weeks from now. 2) The netcode. Bad connections shouldn't reward players like it does now. Of course, you cannot control what players that connect and if their connection is bad or good, but it is terribly dull too see someone soak up bullets that seem like the most obvious hits, while they are perfectly capable of dealing damage to you.

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