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jjab2034により編集済み:
1/25/2015 2:02:33 AM
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The Best Way to Suppress the Cheese
No, Bungie should not ban people for cheesing. Hell, they shouldn't even be deploying countless weekly hotfixes to try to suppress it. The answer to the cheesing issue lies in Destiny's Raid loot system.
RNG makes it so that people who bust their ass get the same quality loot that people who cheese do. It also becomes quite annoying when your whole fireteam gets to boast their new quality raid weapons, while you sit there and twiddle your thumbs over the Radiant Shards and Energy you were just awarded, even though you put the most effort into playing the raid itself.
This is why Destiny needs a loot system that motivates the players to play through the raid legitimately. Let the fireteams who play through the raid legitimately have a great chance of getting good loot, while giving players who cheese the lesser end of the loot table.
We are not in need of more hotfixes to stop cheesing. The players will ultimately find new cheese tactics. Instead, give people a reason to play through the game legitimately. Let the cheesers do as they please.
All in favor leave a bump.
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3 通の返信Listen to what you're suggesting: merit based randomness. A contradiction in terms. I understand that its frustrating because other people are rewarded more than you in spite of you're "earning" it. There isnt an algorithm that can analyze millions of players across thousands of games to deduce what loot table to place each individual. You want a concrete "I have played for X hours and this is my reward for that", or, "After I come in first in ten crucible matches I have a chance at a Gjallahorn". That is not RNG.
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2 通の返信[quote]No, Bungie should not ban people for cheesing. Hell, they shouldn't even be deploying countless weekly hotfixes to try to suppress it. The answer to the cheesing issue lies in Destiny's Raid loot system. RNG makes it so that people who bust their ass get the same quality loot that people who cheese do. It also becomes quite annoying when your whole fireteam gets to boast their new quality raid weapons, while you sit there and twiddle your thumbs over the Radiant Shards and Energy you were just awarded, even though you put the most effort into playing the raid itself. This is why Destiny needs a loot system that motivates the players to play through the raid legitimately. Let the fireteams who play through the raid legitimately have a great chance of getting good loot, while giving players who cheese the lesser end of the loot table. We are not in need of more hotfixes to stop cheesing. The players will ultimately find new cheese tactics. Instead, give people a reason to play through the game legitimately. Let the cheesers do as they please. All in favor leave a bump.[/quote] TLDR; bungie make me a special snowflake. If people can't do it MY WAY it shouldn't be done.
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3 通の返信Oh my God for the millionth time cheesing does not change rng so stop using it as an excuse, it's like trying to stop global warming by eating paint
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4 通の返信My 6 year old knows what's up. She told me yesterday.... " you get what you get so don't throw a fit " If a 6 year old can grasp this concept im sure destinys players can as well. Just play and stop crying about what you didn't get.
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7 通の返信I don't think t will stop cheating even knowing what rewards every player will/won't get. People always will find and pursue shortcuts.
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1 返信Agreed. The loot system not only encourages cheesing but PROMOTES it. Why waste 6 hours trying to kill Crota when all you are going to get are shards or energy. Finding the easiest possible way to do something in Destiny is the only response to the idiotic loot system that was decided to be implemented in the final game. Just like in crucible, why do you care if you win or lose? Going AFK is no issue and actually encouraged because your chance to get the same gear as the player who is 25 and 10 is the EXACT SAME CHANCE (if not better). Destiny rewards luck rather than skill, it makes everyone fell special so therefore nobody is. That exotic you pulled from killing Crota, will just be for sale from Xur in a week or 2.
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3 通の返信Silvurphlameにより編集済み: 1/26/2015 12:10:30 AMAssuming the game can tell when you cheese. I'm inclined to think it can't. Otherwise Bungie would deny cheesers loot from the beginning. The thing is: legit or cheese, you have the same chance at the RNG Wheel O' Loot. Implementing some sort of cheese detection and penalty system won't change the inherent brokenness of the loot system. What Bungie needs to do is fix the loot system so the legit Raiders don't have feel their legit efforts are wasted. One guaranteed piece of armor for each completion. Boots, then Gauntlets, then Helmet, then Chest. Then a guaranteed weapon. You'll still have to grind for upgrades. And it would take at least a month to get all your raid gear so Bungie need not fear that people would get to the end of the content too soon. But I mean there's just [i]so[/i] much to do that probably would never happen anyway, right? :)
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1 返信Rng is what it is..no other way around it. The real issues is the countless bugs that bungie refuses to fix...so after witnessing many. .even in one run...if it takes cheese to put a horrible bugged encounter to an end...I'm all for it...Bungie could stop cheese by releasing less bugs on a launch
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3 通の返信I hate the RNG in the raid all I got from killing crota twice was the hand cannon and a helmet, while my team got multiple things. My thumbs are twiddling hard
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1 返信Decoy dudeにより編集済み: 1/25/2015 2:55:47 PMRng sucks. Right now, the game doesn't recognize if you've completed a section properly, it only recognizes that you've beaten the required enemy to clear the section. In other words, it doesn't care how it gets done but that just the end requirement gets completed.
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11 通の返信If only Bungie realized that the people who cheese things are only doing it because the game is so broken it doesn't feel like it should be done legit.
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1 返信I don't mind cheese. But I really like this idea. Give people a reason to play !!
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1 返信Man frack bungies love to fix cheeses,they need to worrie more about glitches and bugs. And they do need to fix there stupid low as drop rng specially how players get loot. Tired of playing strikes and then ppl join in at the end and them getting better loot. Or playing solo nightfalls and getting nothing but shards
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3 通の返信I done it legit and cheese. I don't care how others spend their time. Many elitist cry how they don't deserve blah blah. I don't care. Let the kids play how they want. That pressures Bungie to prevent exploits and not fix bugs.
