So I see a lot of people posting now with renewed hope that Xur will sell Gjallarhorn, and i myself don't believe it will happen. I found mine on Wednesday, and finally upgraded Wolfpack rounds on it today through bounties. Right off the bat, I am astounded at how powerful it is against just about any situation. That being said, if Xur sells it, it will render all boss fights obsolete, since the moment everyone begins it they will try to take him out as quickly as possible. I don't think this is something people understand, but selling Icebreaker is not something that affects the gameplay as much as selling Ghallarhorn. What do you think?
Edit: There must be some confusion about the point I am attempting to make on this thread. Yes, many threads said the same about IB prior to Xur this weekend, but my point is there is no 14 second video on YouTube of a 6 man fireteam taking down Atheon on Hard mode using only IB as there is with Gjallarhorn. If Xur sells the gun, then expect situations like that to appear more frequently, and don't be surprised when you do ROC strikes and your two random match teammates unload Gjallarhorn on the bosses. That lowers the quality of the game, and is the reason I don't think they will sell it. Thank you for the replies, but please, be respectful to one another as you interact.
Edit #2: I would like to address a couple more arguments that have been reoccurring. Yes, I am aware Xur has sold Gjallarhorn before, but I do not consider that to be an implication that it will be sold again. If we follow that logic, then is it fair to assume that Hardlight will never be sold? Selling it the second week the game is out (when the game is still in its infant stage) is not a very convincing argument considering the limited knowledge there was about the gun. Look at the forums and you are bound to find someone who regrets passing up on the Gjallarhorn when it was sold. Just because it has been sold before, I do think that implies that it will be sold again. On the other hand, someone brought up the point that Crota is not defeated through conventional damage, but through the the sword. I agree that the more diversity they have for killing bosses, the more limited the gjallarhorns role becomes. If they can add more unique ways to kill bosses, I can be convinced that they will sell Gjallarhorn. However at this current state, the game is not ready for it to be sold based on those standards. Thanks to everyone for keeping it respectful and kind, I appreciate the interest!
Edit 3: there is one last argument (it's really an accusation) that has reoccurred that I want to address. Yes, I admit on Wednesday this week I had my first Gjallarhorn drop, however that does not mean I don't want anyone else to have one, or that I am an elitist. My grimoire score says I have a whopping 72 kills with my gjallarhorn, that is because I use it only when the scenario calls for it. I do not mind people getting Gjallarhorn, I hope you all get it one way or another. I also think we need to step back and just look at what this game would look like if every single person got it through Xur. If, by some chance it is sold (I sincerely believe it will never be sold) I will not come on these forums whining about it since in the grand scheme it is such a small thing. This is only meant to be my rational reasoning for why I don't think Xur will sell it. In no way am I "paranoid" or and "elitist" of anything of that kind. Thank you again for your responses.
Edit 4: DeeJ just released the news that almost 1,500,000 people bought the IB this last week. That was the second most coveted in the game. I He even said they have added new events for the gun (or at least implied it). I can only speculate how many would buy gjallarhorn, but I expect it to be significantly higher than that. Is that a gamble Bungie would make? This is the icing on the cake for me, I don't think they will sell Gjallarhorn. Xur comes tomorrow, we will see then and every Friday after that. Happy hunting guardians!
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I think he will sell it again.... at the same way like the icebreaker does.... RNG! My thoughts are, that some exotics more rare then others. Sunbreakers, Plan C or other often sould exotics by xur haves a lot more chance to be sould again as the GHorn / Hardlight (never sould yet) / icebreaker, but they would.
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1 返信Most ppl thought he would never sell IB but he did so why is it less likely for him to sell g horn again
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I mean, to be honest, in the hands of a skilled player, the black hammer is significantly better than Ice Breaker, so it doesn't really matter that xur sold IB, he didn't sell the best sniper in the game. If Xur is RNG, your argument doesn't matter anyway (which to be honest, everything else is RNG, it would make sense that Xur is too, but that is beside the point of this thread), and if Bungie is in charge of Xur's stock, I think it's a sign that Ghorn is not off the table. Although Ice Breaker isn't as good as the horn, it does show that bungie is willing to increase the power level of the community as a whole, which is exactly what the horn would do, just on a larger scale.
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OP: IB doesn't affect gameplay the same way Ghorn does? I've never seen a player run an entire strike using only a Ghorn. Re edit3: There's nothing rational about your argument. What you're trying to do is rationalize your predisposition despite evidence to the contrary (ie. The fact that he has sold it before).
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Yes, he will sell it again. No, Bungie should not nerf it. If they do, that will suck. Why would they nerf it, since it's pve, and not pvp? Because this would make the already extremely small content, slightly easier, with a team full of Gjallarjorns lol. I just want this damn beauty <3.
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2 通の返信So it's been tweeted that ghorn will be sold by xur within 4 weeks what do u say about that?
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3 通の返信Of course he will sell it again a d no matter how much u try to justify your reasoning when he does sell it you can bet some one will revive this post and your probly gonna cop sh£t from everyone lolz my suggestion move house and get a new phone! ;)
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3 通の返信I think this post is way too long and that you should use the energy for much more appropriate things like getting laid, or buying drugs.
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1 返信Statement is too blanket-y. Only 30% of Destiny players have an exotic equipped, something like 10-15% have a maxed out exotic. People who have maxed exotics and raid are likely a lower percentage. Therefore "everyone" is less than 10% of your player base, give or take. Also, people said the exact same thing about Ice Breaker. Now "everyone" can solo nightfall/weeklies without ammo synths. I know you addressed that to some degree, but still. Xûr has a list of items he will sell. Yes, Bungie [i]could[/i] take items off that list if they chose. But doing so would likely cause more ire than leaving them all on there. Also, you are correct in assuming that it is possible that Hard Light, Univeral Remote and Thunderlord are not on his list. But we know that he is likely to sell previous items again, given the multiple repeat items he has sold. So, given the nature of RNG, he may if fact never sell Gjallarhorn again and the chances of it appearing dwindle further with each new expansion adding more possible items to his list. Given that NLB and Dragon's Breath popped up, I'd be willing to acquiesce that his loot is weighted and may in fact have that weighting adjusted by Bungie to make certain items have a higher chance of being sold. But there is still no proof either way that his items are hand picked by the Bungie staff. I realize Xûr is much more high profile than say, the gunsmith, but I see no reason as to why they would use a different (non-RNG) system for his selection each week. That's my opinion on the matter, yours may vary of course.
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4 通の返信I got Gjallahorn last night. I'm still playing regular as always and already have wolf pack rounds. It is not gamebreaking, it will not make people quit playing, raids are still teamwork based and doesn't matter if you have 6 running if you can't pull it together to even get there to kill the boss fast. It's elitism over pixels and sad as it gets. People don't want it sold because they want to be special or picked easy in pug's. I honestly hope Bungie send everyone without it a special package with it inside and Black Hammer just to watch these forums burn and everyone still play regardless. If you NEED Ghorn to play well you're a scrub. Sad but true. It's nice to have but not the end all be all of Destiny. I got Ghorn and it didn't improve my gameplay. Check my stats. Lol The horror. I still want to play even after chasing it since the Alpha.
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9 通の返信What do you mean 6 man taking down atheon with 6 ice breakers? Myself and 5 others had un maxed IB 2.0 and took atheon down in 1 round with weapons of light, got vex for doing it, selling ib was already game breaking but bungie sold it anyways but might have a nerf or change that might balance it again, that might also be the point of ghorn, sell it, and have a change to it
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Is it going to bother the developers how quickly you kill a boss? The fact is the Raid can be done only once a week at a max of 3 times (unless you really have far to much time on your hands). Completing it faster will not make that much of a difference. Xur has sold it before. No reason he won't again.
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4 通の返信A Cheese Potatoにより編集済み: 1/18/2015 8:50:21 AMPeople have done that glitch with Xur to see what he was selling weeks, months and even years before the game came out, and there were multiple instances of him selling it. So it's only a matter of time really.
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rizzamoorにより編集済み: 1/19/2015 12:07:17 AMMost people use the rationale that the Bungie Dev Team didn't recognize the power of the gun before many people had it. I find this to be a false statement. How could the people that came up with the math for the game mechanics not realize what sort of dps the gun would do in certain situations? Bungie has always known how powerful each weapon will be before they release it. Xur is random. Gjallarhorn will be sold again.
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2 通の返信I find op offensive, rude and disrespectful to people without ghorn. Please delete or I will report you.
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4 通の返信he will sell it again so quit posting stupid crap ohh wait i forgot you are a kid who does not know any better