In bungies notes today they outlined the various fixes to the cheeses that they are implementing, in normal mode first! I for one can't wait to hear the whining and crying from all of the people who can't beat it legit now! And the "Exotic chest" is no longer exotic!! no more freebies!!! Now those noobs also have to beat the death singer at a shot at the real stuff. To all of my fellow non-cheesers, lets sit back and watch the tears flow!
Edit: Thanks for all of the replies! Keep them Coming! Its nice to hear all of the support (even from those defending their cheese!)
Edit2: Thanks again! I'm getting a lot of responses saying that no one thinks that people will have any problems once the patches are done. Many people of this forum seem to think anyone is capable of people him every time- well as an avid raider I raid just about every day and well, here is a story from just last night:
Was helping a group last night of kids that had only cheesed it, which they actually said they have only cheated and never done it legit (I liked their honesty so I helped out). Helped them kill the death singers pretty much single handedly. Then came crota.... And with 5 people (we only designated one sniper for this reason) they could not bring his shield down even once. Rockets were flying past him over and over again, trying to take it down with their guns wasn't working because they couldn't keep the damage going on him continuously for long enough. So what had to happen, I freaking soloed crota myself and let ALL 5 of them snipe and take out ads while I killed th swordbearer, grabbed the sword, jumped up next to crota, pulled out my gally, took down his shield, picked up the sword and went to town. 2 tries like this and all 5 of them got their rewards... So to all of you saying everyone will be able to do it, you're simply lying to yourself and it sounds stupid. Go on LFG and find a group of kids to join their groups and see how many of them actually run clean and finish. You'll see.
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The bridge isn't even that hard once you slip into a normal routine. In fact even without cheeses, if you know what your doing, the new raid is really fun to do normally. I don't want to say easy... Because... Well just try taking 3 casual players through it and you'll understand.
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10 通の返信I will say this, there has/is a heck of a lot more whining by people upset about others "cheesing" than you will ever hear from the "cheesers" who will have to beat the Raid legit. Can't we talk about something else please?
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8 通の返信I don't understand why so much hate is spewed at other players when the point of the game is that we are all on the same team. Now if someone is griefing you then that's understandable. But what the hell does it matter how a person acquired their gear? Either they'll know how to do the Raid legit or they won't. If they don't, ask them if they want to learn. If they do take the time to teach them - maybe that person becomes a reliable raiding buddy. If they don't want to learn/act like a know it all/are a detriment to the team because of overconfidence then wish them well and boot them from the fire team (make sure to also explain why so that person has a chance to learn from mistakes). All of this "cheesers will cry and that makes me happy" talk is just inflammatory. We should be helping each other as a community overcome all in game obstacles in either a) the most efficient way or b) the most agreed upon "fun" way by the individual fire team. Hating on other for how they play the game or what gear they do/don't have/use is a sad attempt at self-satisfaction. Go masturbate instead.
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1 返信I am happy it's gone but give it 2 days New ways will pip up them glitches are pro
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15 通の返信Yeah, because its oh so hard and complicated to figure out. Maybe its wrong to cheeze, i dunno. But what bugs me are all the people saying oooooooooh no one who cheezed the raid will know how to do it legit... Really? A 5th grader can learn any of the "legit" raid tactics in one play through. Just like templar cheeze or atheon cheeze, no one is crying... No one cares... No one is scratching their heads..... No one is crying.... There is no one who can't figure out the "right" way to do it.
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I've cheesed and not cheesed. It's really not a hard raid as long as you know the mechanics. I think the death singer is a definite must. The rest really doesn't matter. This post would have made sense at the drop of the dlc, but now 32's are all over. Got to say though, so much stress playing with people who are idiots and lack of play time this week I've reverted to PvP, going to be hard to go back.
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Lol... I know most of you are all excited and probably playing with your self over the thought of people struggling to finish the CE raid but I have a news flash for you.. The raid is easy as fu@k. Nobody will struggle and the people who cheesed will have to spend the extra 10 minutes doing it legit.. no big deal..
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Im glad that they are fixing this right away (compared to VoG stuff) - But the problem ive had most is I dont have a dedicated Raid Group - so I have to go to LFG - well before this patch has anyone ever found a group that didnt want to just cheese it? I got inv to a group that had 3 27s in it once just so they could get the loot - which made the 31s do all the work lol - that sucked - but like i said It was nearly impossible to find a group that didnt want to cheese it - so I just hope itll be easier to find a group that is willing to show the correct way (not that I didnt see the basic principles of what to do)
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I helped 4 cheesers do crota for their first time legit and we did it on our second try. Lol. This raid is easy af; it's nothing compared to VOG. Its better to help them learn so everybody on the forums can do it legit and efficiently.
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Never go full retard. Doing the raid legit is basically a cheese because its so easy. You must be a Christmas noob if you think players cant complete crota raid legit. I'm guessing its a real challenge for you and thats why you hate cheesers. The only tears I see are trickling down your sweaty face.