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Rifter7により編集済み:
1/7/2015 2:42:43 AM
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The status of Hunters in crucible.
http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population
There's some numbers. Out of the general population, hunters have higher kdrs and there's more of them in the top percentage.
Is there a problem with hunters, specifically gunslingers?
personally, i feel that gunslingers ult is too powerful for little skill requirement, and that it needs a nerf. i think it should do 150 body shot dmg with the headshot multiplier being 2.0. that will let headshots always be an instant kill, unless the player has damage reduction. in that situation 1 headshot and a body shot would kill them, or 3 bodyshots.
"thats wrong. im not asking to remove the super, either.
im saying it needs to take more skill.
a headshot = insta
bodyshot takes 2
150 or 175 dmg with 2.0 crit multiplier for when using against damage reduction.
read, people.
gg does 350 dmg"
edit: you guys keep saying nerf the other ults, but we're not seeing a 10% difference in use for top players and a .10+ difference in kd across the entire population for the other classes.
edit: there was some really good posts in here. for and against making changes.
the rest is complete garbage. i've mostly given up on responding to you people, just post your bad kdrs (theres a correlation somewhere) and leave onto the next one.
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7 通の返信Titan smash requires more skill than gg? What? If I can only get 3 kills max (unless symbioted) and have to aim? What? I can be killed just like if I was NOT supered, but titan have basically invulnerability until there super is done? What? At least warlocks have to aim and have the chance of killing themselves. Warlocks have a bad chance of selfrevive in the midst of an opposing fireteam. Titans are cool and so are warlocks and I love all classes, but serious with this thread? You have to be a troll...
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3 通の返信I don't use my warlock in pvp but I feel bad when a warlock throws a Nova Bomb and completely misses. They hardly ever hit me, gold guns you just wait it out. Doesn't last long.
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Titans' Fist of Panic and Warlock's Panic Bomb take skill to use to you? Also you get shields while doing those supers, unlike gunslingers who get no shields and actually have to go around looking and aiming at people to get kills with golden gun. Golden gun seems OP because hunters actually know how to use their supers unlike warlocks and titans who constantly panic and use their supers only on one person, or when they are getting outgunned, or when they getting shot from the back. Hunters wait fro the perfect time to activate golden gun.
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3 通の返信Why golden gun doesnt need a nerf. Its the ONLY super that requires you to actually HIT your target, not just panic super when close for insta kills. Its the ONLY super that recieves no shield or protection through a skill or class item meaning its the most vulnerable super of them all.
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1 返信Irish Kimboにより編集済み: 1/5/2015 9:24:19 PMAll classes have supers that are instakills that require little skill. At least gunslingers have to point their gun at somebody.
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2 通の返信Really they just need to fix hunter super timer. Nova bomb is ridiculous as well it's just everyone uses sun singer! And why not! Fusion nades are half the locks kills in pvp! And either nerf warlock melee n nerf fusion nades or buff /give something amazing to Titans for pvp. And equivalent bullshit super like nova bombing from distance or dancing or golden gun would be if Titans fist of havoc would cause a ripple effect damaging everything from points a and b in any crucible match. Wouldn't that be bullshit? Yes! Well everything lock void wise and especially Hunter super is bullshit op Match this with near perfection builds for pvp and that's all you see in pvp.
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2 通の返信Not saying this in a snotty forum way, just play the class before shouting nerf, please. Your point would be so much more concrete with evidence of both your hunter subclasses upgraded.
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This again really? Hunter needs to not be a one shot kill but every other super should be? STFU and get good, if you don't hear a Hunter's stupidly loud super entrance and don't look at your motion tracker it's your fault you died.
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I disagree, the only thing that should maybe be nerfed is the charge rate for GG. It seems to be able to be used at least once more per game on average compared to other classes (excluding nova bomb with obsidian mind).
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4 通の返信Fist of havick needs a headshot for insta Same with nova bomb Stupid idea there right? Same as yours Supers are insta kills, that's what they are I can take out 3-4 individuals You can take out an entire team at once (6 people) if they're close enough (control points) when you use nova bomb/fist of havock Gunslinger isn't OP, go back to complaining about blade dancer, nobody really cares about that class.
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4 通の返信My favorite part of that link is the majority of people that PvP are level 26-28 (a huge 30.3%!). What's that mean? That most people who play PvP don't even play the rest of the damn game. lol More than half (53.2%) are level 28 or under. Wtf, guys? No wonder you're the louder majority. You don't even like the rest of the game, complain about the PvP part, and ruin our PvE part. Thanks :/
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I play Gunslinger for Chain of Woe and Gunslinger's Trance. It's godlike with Hand Cannons in PvP, mainly because the recoil and reload on them can suck. Golden Gun can be easily wasted simply because you're too far from the fight. Yes, it's good, but occasionally it falters simply because you're out of range and get killed right after activation. It all depends on the scenario.
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6 通の返信Yeah. I mean hunter By the time my gg is over I kill like one person Why? They die to the other people on my team. Get a good team scrub
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2 通の返信We'd be saying the same thing if one of the other classes were top. It's player not class. Idiots
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People complain about hunters supers all the time! But it isnt like we use it all the time! It takes time to let it charge and we have to use it at the right time so that its not wasted! Its also easy to kill us mid-super! But the main thing is that it balances out because hunters are the only class that does not have a 1 hit melee! Titan shoulder charge= 1 hit kill. Both warlock melee= 1 hit kill! Both hunter melee (including throwing knives)=2 hits to kill! This can be used far more than a super! So it is balanced out when we get our supers and can get slightly more kills! Also agreeing with everyone else, we cannot use it as a panic button!
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2 通の返信I've long since thought the Golden Gun should be a six round mag, with headshots being a 1-hit kill and body shots requiring two. Poor aim nets you 3 kills tops, while a true bad ass with a few lucky turns could get 6.
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1 返信Its not GG doing all the damage. Chain of woe and gunslingers trance is the reason i switched from a warlock to a hunter as my PvP main. Two very handy perks for PvP.
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2 通の返信First implement a degrading damage radius for lock and titan ults, then I'll be a bit more supportive of your hunter nerfs.
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4 通の返信I'm a hunter and I can tell you gunslinger is fine. Its the blade dancer that's op.
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5 通の返信You sir, are an idiot. Titans and warlocks get supers that one hit kill multiple people. But a hunter can't have a one shot one kill? It's too strong?? Go -blam!- yourself noob scrub.
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4 通の返信So now that it's been about 2 weeks since Christmas, the noobs are all over level 20 and starting to venture into the Crucible yea? Finally getting a taste of PvP and come running right to the forums to complain about whatever class is killing you most that day? Smh..
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4 通の返信Oh yea that's a great idea, let's take the super with only three shots ( I know about the 4 shot exotic) and make it the worst super in the game.
