Most people don't think the last word is overpowered. These people do not know how to use the weapon properly, but once you do it is literally the most overpowered thing in this game. How do you learn to use it properly? Does it take time to learn? Nope! Just use aggressive ballistics and perfect balance. Now fire from the hip and ONLY from the hip. A shot to the body will do 68 damage. That means 3 shots to the body is a kill. No other handcannon in the game except for Thorn can kill in 3 shots to the body and do so as fast as TLW, because no other hand cannon in the game fires faster or more accurately from the hip than the last word. A shot to the head from the hip will do 111 damage. If you get two headshots, that's a two shot kill. Since you're never aiming in, your radar is always up, and because hand cannons are very accurate from the air you can jump around while still accurately killing people in 3 shots to the freaking body.
Go on destinytracker, look at the top players in true skill, then look at what gun they're using; usually last word or Thorn. I was hoping I wouldn't have to make this post, because A) the less people that know about this ridiculous gun the better for crucible. B) I doubt anyone from bungie will notice this post. Please fix your game by nerfing this gun because it's literally the easiest gun in the game and takes all skill out of a fight that is TLW vs TLW. There is no incentive to even go for headshots with this stupid gun. In fact that's the biggest problem, the unique passive says it only gets bonus precision damage from the hip, but it actually gets bonus damage to non-precision shots as well, which sounds like a bug to me.
As a final note, I have a very high k/d, I'm #12 in Skirmish on xbox one, and as a player who actually understands this game's pvp, The Last Word is the most overpowered thing in the game by FAR. Also, if you ever actually do get around to nerfing it, go ahead and nerf the Thorn and Pocket Infinity, because they're right up there on the list of weapons that will be abused. Lets get back to winning gun fights because you hit more headshots than the other guy.
edit: To everyone saying "why not nerf everything omg stop crying":
I know that when the gun gets nerfed another gun will be the best, obviously. Problem is that you don't go for headshots with this gun, you don't even aim in. Hipfire to the body is not a skillful way to win gunfights. I'd rather a gun that requires aim and headshots be the best, that way the better player will consistently win.
edit 2: Keep the discussion somewhat respectful please :p, and if you agree with me please upvote this so that hopefully Bungie will actually see this post. I'm going to sleep now.
edit 3 (last one lol): I don't mean to sound like I'm bragging when I mention my stats, I just want people to know that obviously as someone who is good at the game I know what I'm talking about. Also, I didn't suffer some horrible loss in crucible recently, this post is just a wake up call to Bungie, because they apparently have no idea TLW is broken right now and neither do most people playing the game.
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6 通の返信As an owner of TLW I say f**k off. I am tired of you f**king crucible c**ts coming on here and moaning about OP weapons because you get your ass kicked. Don't blame the tool, blame the person wielding it.
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2 通の返信I'm not sure what world you're living in where people are flying through the air with TLW slaughtering everyone and their grandmothers with nothing but hip fire, but it's certainly not the one I'm living in.
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4 通の返信So I guess if someone like my 8 year old sister with no skill picks up my controller and starts shooting into the sky, she'll drop the whole enemy team since according to you the gun is too OP and requires no skill.
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1 返信It's name sake ability says "bonus damage and stability." right at the beginning so that's not a bug. xur sold the gun back in october I think and people wanted it nerfed then but they didn't so its likely they won't anytime soon.
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1 返信I largely agree with you. That said, I think pocket infinity should take priority: it's a broken weapon in crucible and needs a fix. Thorn I'm not too worried about. Most players using Thorn at the moment are beginner hand-cannon users; who've only adopted HC's post Thorn-buff.
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2 通の返信Lol yea I agree that it's super strong infact i get some of my best games whenever I use it also the fact that it also has the potential to kill someone from mid range [i]sometimes[/i] (if you're very accurate) is crazy! But I don't know how I would feel about it being nerfed
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3 通の返信[quote]M That means 3 shots to the body is a kill. No other handcannon in the game except for Thorn can kill in 3 shots to the body, .[/quote] Ummm.. Wrong lmao
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12 通の返信Wow, a player that understands mechanics. Allow me to add that with a macro/rapidfire controller you can make it fire at rates that make a Shingen seem slow.
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8 通の返信MushiDjangoにより編集済み: 1/4/2015 11:39:50 AMHawkmoon & thorn need to be nerfed, I usually win against the lw unless its close range, the other 2 just two shot me any distance. Was doing the control bounty earlier & went against a whole team of thorn users, it was not fun, I get 7-8 headshots w/ my auto & of course they win. Nerf the thorn back to what it was, bungie you do not know how to balance adjust at all.
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3 通の返信you do realise the skill and twitch reflex required to run around hip-firing at centre mass is alot of skill. tlw is ONLY good if you have skill. you deserve the right to 3 shot people if you can hip-fire across the map with it.
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1 返信No matter how many nerfs you do there's always a best. Nerfing whatever is best till all is terrible is not a good plan. But it does seem to be bungie plan so it may happen like it did when everyone used auto rifles.
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3 通の返信Desmond of Vanguardにより編集済み: 1/4/2015 11:28:01 AMIt's crap in PVE, well not crap, but pretty bad fit for it. So it's balanced. It has slow reloads and baaad range + the mag size isn't too great. If it shines in 1v1 sittulations, it's not overpowered. If it would shine in 1v3, then I'd agree.
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3 通の返信Yeah, let's nerf the fun out of all games we enjoy. Nerf it, nerf them all. Nerf like the wind. NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NOW NERF NOW NEEEEEEEERF NERF FOR RUIN AND THE CRUCIBLE'S ENNNNNDING
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3 通の返信I have two of them and I have to agree. It is easily the best 1v1 gun in the game given how much damage it does and how fast you can fire it. I'd said before that you can just keep your distance to minimize it's effectiveness but some maps don't really let you do that and neither do some people's playstyles. Yes, it's mag size is only 8 but that's not really an issue. That's more than enough to get 2 kills without reloading.