I got 2 Shards each time with all 3 characters. Completely different classes. All 30+. Yes, this is Destiny. And it's quite demotivating when I bust my ass and watch everyone else reap the benefits. I say, cheese it. Cheese everything, because this game doesn't reward for effort. Edit: Fun fact - Crota Kills as Swordbearer don't affect KDR. I have the Tireless Striders with my 31. Just think about that with the KDR quota. Edi 2t: I'm taking into account games where I'm invited in to be the Swordbearer for a few minutes, kill Crota, then leave. You can see that my records for a single life in a raid are between 5 hours and 6.5 hours across all 3 characters. My highest kill count was 1373 for a single raid. Why would KDR even matter in PvE? Edit 3&4 (pasted it here): I did a full stat comparison between myself and GouldBerg988 (the guy whom copy-pasted games where I was only passing the checkpoint and being a Swordbearer) (to GouldBerg988) *sigh* Well, since you really, really want to throw stats around, then let’s look at them from an actual numbers standpoint. I took the liberty of compiling the stats of all your characters: http://destinydb.com/guardians/playstation/2305843009223003365-gouldberg988#50.pve http://destinydb.com/guardians/playstation/2305843009223003199-gouldberg988#50.pve http://destinydb.com/guardians/playstation/2305843009224492838-gouldberg988#50.pve And my characters: http://destinydb.com/guardians/xbox/2305843009218551581-gh0st-wh1sp3r#50.pve http://destinydb.com/guardians/xbox/2305843009220916615-gh0st-wh1sp3r#50.pve http://destinydb.com/guardians/xbox/2305843009220916740-gh0st-wh1sp3r#50.pve And then, I compiled all of their stats, as seen in this sheet, here: https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=to54a8bccf96e1fdc495988d2a2f5adb449ba Mind you, these numbers were taken on Dec. 31, 2014 at 3:30AM (ish) PST. So, if you’ve attempted a Raid since then, the numbers might be different. I haven’t done a Raid, as to keep my stats the same for your viewing pleasure. (Oh, and I could also paste your recent Raids with 0.00 KDRs, but I won’t because I’m not an asshole. Hint, hint.) I have a higher - raid success rate - most kills in a single game (1373) - longest single life (over 6x your highest, with an average of 6.8x your average) VoG (30) - higher average of completions - higher average of kills - higher kills per completion - lower average of deaths per completion - higher amount of precision kills per completion - lower amounts of deaths over time spent in raid per completion VoG (26) - higher average of completions - higher average of assists - higher amount of kills over time spent per completion - lower amount of deaths over time spent per completion Crota - higher average of completions - higher average of assists - lower average of deaths per completion So yeah. You almost never do Raids, compared to me. And if you were such a badass as you claim, then you’d at least have more Crota and VoG completions than I do…but you don’t. In fact, while you have a higher KDR (which means nothing, as I could stand in a corner and kill adds for hours to up my KDR), I get the Raids done more often and die less often. Plus, the fact that I can survive for about 5 hours is pretty extreme, seeing as you can die from: having to defend the Sync Plates from Praetorians getting wiped by Conflux Expunge getting wiped by Oracles detainment fields getting wiped by Gorgons falling from platforms getting blown up by Supplicants Vault glitchfest Abyssal Lamp explosions falling in pits Annihilator Totems Gatekeeper instaslash Deathsinger (enough said) Oversoul wipe Crota enrage Not to mention any other way to get murdered. Like Hobgoblin sniper fest, regenerating Praetorians, mobs of Thralls, Ogre energy hose, Swordbearer blindside, Knights with Boomers, etc. etc. Really, really hard to do with an under leveled character. Insanely boring to do with over leveled character. So yeah. Throw around stats. But if you can’t interpret them, they mean nothing. The data’s all there.