To your edit that's why they changed it up. They can't leave gear at 29 because that will discourage new players. 31 is the new 29 in terms of what it represents. Some people (like me) are fine with it but we have been 30 for a much longer time with our fave gear at max for months. I can understand your grief if those 11raid runs you did were all painful and pulling teeth as well as getting them upgrade but sadly in the grand scheme of things in order to keep the bigger groups they have t\o burn guys like you.

My message to all haters. You sir keep voicing your honest opinion! Cheers.

I've killed countless vex.. Spent hours upon hours of time in the vault for the prized helmet needed to reach 30. Only to hear all my time was in vain. Ah but I won't be making that mistake again. I'll play when I feel like it, but never again put real effort into your game. I don't need to worry about getting armor or guns because they don't do anything. I could literally ditch the game now, come back when house of wolves comes out, buy my level 32 gear, and just go back and play crotas end without any difficulty because that's how useless any of the rewards are. I'm glad that this happened now before I invested too much time and effort. For all the people who logged over 250 hours of play time and got all level 30s, maxing all their weapons and what not.. I feel sorry for you. Because that shiny raid helmet.. And those nice iron banner boots and gauntlets some you guys grinded for.. We're a complete and utter waste of your time. Because now people can buy the dlc, and easily surpass each and every one of you without ever needing to go into the vault of glass. Tl;dr The dlc made hard-core destiny playing irrelevant, and casual or new players may now rejoice! And I for one am thankful that I know now that Activision and bungie value the almighty dollar more than respecting my time and effort and would rather someone buy a new copy of their game and immediately play the highest level of content without ever having to touch the vault of glass. Become legend my a$$.. They straight up give it to you. And I'll let them. While I play other games and live a better life for it.

Well I'm not 30, and would never have been as i have limited time and don't have a family situation that allows me to use a mic all the time. I saw how hard people tried to get to 30 however, and I would be annoyed if all my hard work was rendered meaningless. I thought this was a game in which we could become legend. It turns out instead it's a game in which late comers are allowed to catch up easily. How can anyone be legend if we are all the same?

I personally think the raids should be stepping stones for gear. You do one raid that gears you up for the next that just seems to be a logical way of doing it. Though I'm not that fussed I'm just happy playing the content.

Dude grab a Snickers, you turn a little whiny when your hungry ;)

Gonna just copy and paste what I said in another thread Why don't people understand this concept when it is so unbelievably simple. They raised the max level. It is no longer 30. When 30 was the max level they did not allow you to buy your way to 30. They allowed you to buy your way to 26-29 which is the minimum level to be in order to enjoy the content. Now the max level is 32 and they are allowing you to buy your way to 30 which is the minimum in order to enjoy the content. Level 30's who were lucky enough to have the time/luck in order to get the raid gear enjoyed max level. Now you have a chance to do it again. Those who wish to grind and earn their way to max level can still do so. Those who simply don't have enough time/patience or simply don't care about hitting max level can still enjoy the new content. This is not Bungie flipping you off. This is not some slight that you all must rise up in arms over. This is Bungie simply progressing the game forward for EVERYONE not just the max level people. Nothing has changed except the level number.

I agree with you the raid is now pretty much obselete! I have 2 level 29s missing one piece of raid gear was gonna go on and try and get tonight but now it's lost all thrill because I can go on and buy the stuff. Little dissapointed.... But I see why bungie is doing it but maybe what they could have done is make it if you have completed first raid the gear is available which means people still have to Atleast pass first raid to move on

Where can I buy gear to get me to 30?? Or is that not until dlc is out

I don't need to measure my accomplishments to everybody else. I got everything I got and I had fun doing it. A video game shouldn't be a chore. Grinding can be fun at times but eventually somethings gotta give

It shouldn't be sold, before u raid Crota's end u should be able to raid vog blindfolded. Now vog is a skippable raid which is a shame. It's all about the money though n new players want instant gratification.

I just love all the responses. "I grind ALOT" "I ran the raids countless times" "I deserve to be 30" "RNG hates me" But looking at their profiles, they cleared maybe 3 or 5 times total. That's laughable. And they call us lv 30s entitled.