This has been a big annoyance of mine for a while now but my patience has finally hit my limit...
I regularly raid with my friendship group - we have 9 people, never hard finding a group. What IS hard however, is finding the Raid Light gear. I've done the raid once a week every week since it started, and for the last month I've been doing it twice on a second Titan to try and boost my odds. By my working out, I've fully run the raid 11 times, with another 2 attempts at the beginning where we stopped at Atheon.
The very first time we ran it, I got the Raid boots for my Titan. That was over 2 months ago. Since then, despite all the runs I've done, I've not earned any more Light equipment. I've gotten three guns (AE, VoC and PR) throughout this time, but there's been many weeks where I've either earned nothing but shards/energy or recieved the class item (which I now have had four times...).
On the one hand, I accept I'm basically at the will of the RNG here, but on the other hand many people in my group now either have 30's or now have enough gear to hit 30. 2 of them are just short of being able to 30 a second character. Week in, week out I've been helping out and whilst they're celebrating their new stuff I'm gradually getting more and more frustrated that I can't get anywhere. Even those in my group that have only been able to play a few times have more Light gear than I do.
It's incredibly frustrating - I've enjoyed Destiny immensely and I always felt willing to push myself along - I was the first in my group to hit 29, which I ended up doing using vendored Vanguard gear since none was dropping for me at the time. In every sense that I can, I earned that gear and I earned that 29 level. Now I'm one of the last to get anywhere near hitting 30 and the only barrier at this point is one I have absolutely no control over - the RNG.
I can't even get around this using the Iron Banner rewards since I need a Chest piece, which isn't for sale this round. Even worse, it's so late on now even if I can get the gear in the next couple of weeks it'll be outdated instantly once the expansion lands.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that we're not all supposed to get the good stuff straight away and that's what the RNG is for, but for crying out loud make it less harsh.
Anyway, sorry for anyone that's actually read all this but I really needed somewhere to rant.
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1 返信The drop rate is perfectly fine. Being unlucky shouldn't be grounds for upping a drop rate. Out of curiosity, i wonder what difficulty you're doing. I only do hard for the rewards, so having 2 warlocks and a hunter i made 2 days ago (3 warlocks before) I was usually getting 3-5 raid armor set pieces per week. Not that i needed them... ANYWAY. If you'd like to see what it takes to get everything in the raid, look at my pve summary, and then my hard mode completes. http://destinydb.com/guardians/playstation/2305843009231004200-fluffybunnies_#50.pve
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5 通の返信I know how u feel but at least u have a group to run it with. I have 3 29 characters but I can't find people to raid with
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1 返信Here's a tip, call it bs if you like, but it works... I typically play very well in the raid, consistently 1 or 2 on the fire team, until I started playing hard as a 29. 30s do more damage, therefore more kills. The lower you are on the totem pole, the better your drops will be. The best atheon drop I ever recieved (vex, helmet, Monte Carlo, aspect of time, Atheons) came when I got splash killed in the bubble first times vengeance. Call it random, say I'm an idiot, whatever, but I do have 3 30s. Well after some helium I will.
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1 返信It is frustrating. I'd like to see the table used for the drops. What are the possibilities of each drop and when. After so many attempts am I and others on the opposite side of luck we get nothing? How does this help me moving forward in the next dlc where it is anticipated the raid will be lvl 30. I still have only my gauntlets for exotic gear and no raid or ib gear. So I need soooo much to enter the new raid. Then we are likely to get the next dlc in feb or march, I'll be falling behind and unable to even enjoy the game because of the mechanics. Random is good to a point and I like the no trading to a point. Couldn't we trade within the raid group at the end so if one guy has boots he can trade it to someone else. The rng could be changed slightly so that you have less chances at picking up weapons, class items and gear etc you already have. Tweak the system don't overhaul it. Love the game, like that everyone is not equal and each path is different and can be harder or easier depending on luck and skill but when luck runs out and skill can't take you further it becomes frustrating and one looks elsewhere for fun. The potential for this game is right there. Soooo close to phenomenal. Soo close to the best and most dynamic game ever. Just needs minor tweeks. Love the tumbler love the pumpkin head but please stop giving us extras when these other issues are still holding back so many great guardians Glad that's off my chest
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6 通の返信WarMachineXLにより編集済み: 11/23/2014 1:57:29 AMSomething has to give on the raid drops and soon as theres only 2 weeks left till the expansion. Everyone is complaing but those lucky enough to get the raid gear. I'm one of the unfortunate ones that has been raiding sinse launch and still cant hit 30. Even after I made a third Titan the worst class in the game. The fact that you have to create multiple chars of the same class for a small ray of hope to get to the next lvl is bullshit. I'll admit it I hate the hard raid as a 29. I'm not a pro gamer I'm average and dont want to slow people down by doing a lvl 30 raid that I'm under leveled for. Worst part is that Iron Shotgun will do nothing for me as I need a chest or helm to hit lvl 30.
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Don't play the game to achieve that goal, play the game to play the game. Don't get frustrated with a game. This is your time away from the stresses of real life. There is nothing special about 30. I have two, one full raid gear, on full raid plus IB boots. Just got the raid boots last night for my lock. All this entitles you to do is maybe get into a hm raid group that take a game way too seriously. Let me tell you those are not fun. This happens to a lot of people from what I hear. So do not be discouraged. It seems you have a pretty solid group to raid with, keep at it. It will eventually come
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I've gotten boots boots boots on my warlock 6 or 7 times (and that's in quite a few raids so not every time) until finally I got the helmet and the ugly dress in a single run. RNG is RNG. Sorry you're having a tough time with it.
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2 通の返信Dude i am in the same shoes, i had my buddy get all his gear and every single gun both legendary and exotic from regular mode. i play way more compared to him, i have two Warlocks and i only gotten the gloves so far. It really sucks because i have done it more than 15 times on each toon not to mention the 3-4 Hard modes completed. So many Shards idk what to do with them anymore lol. anyways this shit sucks...
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I'm in the same boat as you mostly. Need a helmet or chest for my hunter that is primary. Was lucky with my Titan and have raid chest so was able to get to thirty with iron banner. My warlock is relatively fresh so no complaints there (yet). Just ran the raid hard twice last night and saw one guy get the full armor set in that run. I wish they would put in a half measure such as raid tokens for each completion and able to buy a piece of raid armor with use the raid token to purchase a xur consumable that would allow you to wear two exotic pieces of armor. I think with the expansion coming out though they might start selling vendor level 30 capable gear though.
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1 返信Dont run the normal raid at all. Just run the hard raid even if your the only 29 one 29 isnt a biggie. Youllget double drops and this worked for me. Im coming up 26 normal/hard raid clears and got full helmet gloves and chest in 2 hard raids in 1 week because i never ran normal that same week
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2 通の返信I hear ya. Had a couple of mates that we run raids and nightfalls. They got hawkmoon, gjhallahorn and raid gear. One got hawk and 2 pieces of raid gear in one hit. I on the other hand got the devil you know that I have and maxed already, chatterwhite 3 times, twice in one raid, a ship that I've gotten 3 times and bad seed 3 times. I've seen it mentioned before but the raid should have a ranking system similar to iron banner. Every week change the gear and for each raid, only on normal/hard once a week per character. You get 3 raid material. You use this to purchase the raid gear. Even if it's 12 per piece. It will get more people playing and getting the gear. Yeah it will still required grinding but you have a goal. And it is feasible.
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1 返信After weeks of getting basically all shards and energy from the raid I just got the mythoclast lol let's hope we get that buff in the next update like promised.... But seriously they need to fix the loot system in the raid itself. We shouldn't be doing something as hard as the raid and getting something we could get in a daily mission. It should probably be all weapons are randomised, a guaranteed armor piece each run through and absolutely no shard or energy at all and as for shaders/ships the game should be able to tell your character has these so you won't get doubles, this is common sense stuff really so I have no clue why bungie insists on me drowning in chatter white instead lol
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1 返信This is how a lot of MMO style games work. Expect that it will take most people till the DLC to get to level 30. By the time the DLC hits there will be guaranteed methods to get to level 30. Iron Banner already gave guaranteed access to two pieces of level 30 gear, which means only one RNG drop is need to get to level 30. Play the raid for fun, if you get the gear then bonus you're level 30 by the DLC, if not by the time the DLC comes out you'll still be able to get to 30 .
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2 通の返信Totally agree dude. Got 5 coins off night fall this week and just the ship off the raid. This is now a Tuesday only game for me. Pointless running around all week doing the same things over and over with no valuable rewards and if I don't get my lvl 30 before the dlc is out I'll be dropping destiny for good.
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5 通の返信you have barely even done the raid. it said you had like 30 something raids on one character and like 2 on another.
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Gave me nothing but shards and energy the last two runs on my hunter, hopefully now I'm 29 I will get the chest piece on hard mode later. Makes me glad I played through iron banner for the gauntlets and gloves, got full raid gear on my titan so RNG hasn't completely screwed me.
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Run the raid on easy then hard is what works for a lot of people I know. If not just keep running hard to completion. My Titan took 15 clears to hit 30. My hunter took 6 or 7. I was forced to do iron banner which gave me the gloves low and behold I got the raid glove this week along with a gun I've been waiting for forever its RNG.