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*VOG Mystery* Originally posted and updated through October-December...

[b]Before you read any further guardians, remember this I am not able to search and test all these theories out by myself. Please for the community test some of what you can out and see if anything comes from it. -Thank you[/b] *Yes this is lengthy read. Yes it consists of some new information. Yes this is a must read for anyone trying to unlock any more possible VOG secrets. Lastly... *No I don't have any photos/videos because anybody can see this and my camera is faulty. *Alrighty ladies and gentlemen I'm going to try and update you with some new information found. Also my friends don't really enjoy exploring so if you want to help and are 30. "No 29's this will be difficult." Please add me or send message on (Xbox 360 xCh3ckerx) *The only things I can say for now is when you start the VOG on Hardmode go hard right and into Campus 9. Keep heading in that direction until where you fought the GateLord. As you'll immediately find out... ALL ENEMIES IN THIS AREA ARE NOW LEVEL 30! Fight your way through the hordes and you'll come to the vex plate where you activated the GateLord in the mission to get its head for the queen. Many players have speculated that the Gates outside of the VOG "There is two of them" and 1 at the jumping puzzles. "So in theory they are locked and you need a key to open them." The 3 main sync plates unlock the Vault itself, the two in Aetheons lair open the past and future timestreams. Which leads me here at this sync plate. Why would only on Hardmode on the VOG these enemies change to level 30? This area that leads you to the only known other sync plate. Also these guys are pretty tough in this area. Its tough to go alone even if you're a 30. Now if you follow this area up to where the GateLord use to be you'll see a laser above you that is similar to the one the spire fires off to open the vault. It bounces around a bit into multiple reflectors and ends up going to the GateLords ring..."yet I believe the laser splits into 3 but does not match up to the 3 lights on the ring." "*I will confirm or deny that part later." Anyways while you are at the sync plate look across to where the lasers fire from. There is only 3 red lights in this whole area and they are right next to where the laser enters this area. They seem to be set up as if check points. *This is where theory is to come in. What if turning the lights in the VOG to blue actually has an effect? Maybe by changing them in the Vault it will change the lights in the GateLord area thus activating the sync plate which could open something?! Its not really that quite of a stretch when you think about it. The main thing that bugged me and my fireteam is why are these enemies such a high level? What purpose would they have since everyone goes straight into the VOG as soon as a spire forms. I know there are many other forum posts doing trial/error runs and such. If you could help spread the word it might just be the missing piece of the puzzle they need. Lets just work together and weed out all the rumors and gossip and use what we know and test to see it have any effect on this new area such as not letting sync plates be taken? Don't let the Templar teleport? Don't let a gorgon spot your fireteam? Don't get marked by oracles? ...and other prevailing theories. If any and all other Raid teams could help please check this out, it seems to be set up like this for a reason. In my opinion I believe either only 3 guardians go into the VOG and the other 3 go to this sync plate. Or all but one go in and that lone wolf goes through this area by him/herself fighting these hard enemies to get to the plate. *Lastly I do think many people over think the raid, thinking there's so many more secrets than could fit in such a narrow space. The only reason I believe there to be more is...Since the beginning Bungie has always been crazy about 7 "possibly 7 chests." They are very sneaky with what they do, and also DeeJ has yet to speak on all these VOG theories posted almost daily. "He might have posted, yet I read many of these theories and have yet to see a reply from him on these posts." He takes the time to post on Longfaces posts and others yet doesn't dare involve himself with anything dealing with the Raid. Also the fact that we find new things out in the game almost daily. "Random bit of information...Did you know there is a Walker public event on the Moon, Venus and Earth? Many people do not know this." That's why I still have hope that this game has more to offer. Thank you for reading I hope others can check this new find out and can comment below with any proven evidence or new leads that they find. *Remember you and your friends might know something and don't seem to question if everyone else knows it too. Please share any and all information that may seem like every day things that you may know. Thank you. *Oh and a side note when you're in the GateLord area be sure to keep an eye on the sky! You'll see the normal reddish colored dragon creatures flying around, but also a few huge dark looking dragons?! I've never seen these massive dark ones until I explored this area while playing VOG on Hardmode. [b]*Edit1: Keep this trending guardians, and lets see if we can actually get some results from one of these raid theories! Remember any and everyone is able to test this out if you're capable of doing the VOG on Hardmode. *Edit2 : Alrighty guys/gals, I'm catching up on everything you've posted. Ill try to reply to what I can. Keep testing this and other theories out and PM me your findings. *Edit3 : After reading some of your comments it has come to my attention that the level 30 guys may just be that level due to the Instance Zone. However I still recommend checking that area out due to it being the only area with another sync plate in the game. Which we need for any of these prevailing theories to possibly work of opening the interior portals. As I've stated before lets check this out as a community for the current Raid rotation and if nothing comes from it, lets shelve it. For now all we can do is trial and error guardians. Thank you all for your feedback it is much appreciated. [i]"Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light."[/i] - Dylan Thomas *Edit4: I have yet to get a fireteam completely dedicated to this theory. I need 5 players of level 30 if possible... "due to damage increase and resistance advantages" Many players choose to only go after the rewards they know and not investigate the possibility of the ones we don't. If you would like to help me out message me on Xbox360-(xCh3ckerx). *Edit5: Tested theory of no sync plates and no players dying to see if anything happens at the GateLord sync plate during the beginning of the raid on Hardmode. No effect on the plate or the Endless Steps area in general. However the lights in the secret tunnel below the first chest did in fact turn blue. We searched inside the secret tunnel for any chests and none was found. Ill keep you all updated with any new information. -Thank you[/b] [b]*Edit6: Alrighty guardians after much exploring with these lights. I am split on wether we did some sort of challenge unknowingly or they just change color. *Edit7: If there is any guardians that can effectively cheese Aetheon, I need them for the Xbox360 to test out ny final theory before I close down this thread. "As a hunter I cannot..." (xCh3ckerx)[/b] [b] *Edit8: Just curious has anyone come across anything new they might seem to think is a lead of some kind?[/b]
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  • Whenever you do any kind of mission it changes all the enemies in private spaces throughout the map to the level of the mission. I checked and the enemies in the area with the fallen ship have raised levels as well during the strike. I still think that there may be something in the vault that has to do with the gatekeeper plate though

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  • In my experience when you start a mission, all enemies that aren't in the over world will change to the level of that mission. The area that normally has the gate lord is actually not an over world area (just try and summon your sparrow) and so the creatures probably changed to match the level of the raid. Try running a different mission at a high level and go there, you will probably see that the vex in that area will be the same level as the mission you are running.

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  • [quote]*Edit1: Keep this trending guardians, and lets see if we can actually get some results from one of these raid theories! Remember any and everyone is able to test this out if you're capable of doing the VOG on Hardmode. *Yes this is lengthy read. Yes it consists of some new information. Yes this is a must read for anyone trying to unlock any more possible VOG secrets. Lastly... *No I don't have any photos/videos because anybody can see this and my camera is faulty. *Alrighty ladies and gentlemen I'm going to try and update you with some new information found. Also my friends don't really enjoy exploring so if you want to help and are 30. "No 29's this will be difficult." Please add me or send message on (Xbox 360 xCh3ckerx) *The only things I can say for now is when you start the VOG on Hardmode go hard right and into Campus 9. Keep heading in that direction until where you fought the GateLord. As you'll immediately find out... ALL ENEMIES IN THIS AREA ARE NOW LEVEL 30! Fight your way through the hordes and you'll come to the vex plate where you activated the GateLord in the mission to get its head for the queen. Many players have speculated that the Gates outside of the VOG "There is two of them" and 1 at the jumping puzzles. "So in theory they are locked and you need a key to open them." The 3 main sync plates unlock the Vault itself, the two in Aetheons lair open the past and future timestreams. Which leads me here at this sync plate. Why would only on Hardmode on the VOG these enemies change to level 30? This area that leads you to the only known other sync plate. Also these guys are pretty tough in this area. Its tough to go alone even if you're a 30. Now if you follow this area up to where the GateLord use to be you'll see a laser above you that is similar to the one the spire fires off to open the vault. It bounces around a bit into multiple reflectors and ends up going to the GateLords ring..."yet I believe the laser splits into 3 but does not match up to the 3 lights on the ring." "*I will confirm or deny that part later." Anyways while you are at the sync plate look across to where the lasers fire from. There is only 3 red lights in this whole area and they are right next to where the laser enters this area. They seem to be set up as if check points. This is where theory is to come in. What if turning the lights in the VOG to blue actually has an effect? Maybe by changing them in the Vault it will change the lights in the GateLord area thus activating the sync plate which could open something?! Its not really that quite of a stretch when you think about it. The main thing that bugged me and my fireteam is why are these enemies such a high level? What purpose would they have since everyone goes straight into the VOG as soon as a spire forms. I know there are many other forum posts doing trial/error runs and such. If you could help spread the word it might just be the missing piece of the puzzle they need. Lets just work together and weed out all the rumors and gossip and use what we know and test to see it have any effect on this new area such as not letting sync plates be taken? Don't let the Templar teleport? Don't let a gorgon spot your fireteam? Don't get marked by oracles? ...and other prevailing theories. If any and all other Raid teams could help please check this out, it seems to be set up like this for a reason. In my opinion I believe either only 3 guardians go into the VOG and the other 3 go to this sync plate. Or all but one go in and that lone wolf goes through this area by him/herself fighting these hard enemies to get to the plate. *Lastly I do think many people over think the raid, thinking there's so many more secrets than could fit in such a narrow space. The only reason I believe there to be more is...Since the beginning Bungie has always been crazy about 7 "possibly 7 chests." They are very sneaky with what they do, and also DeeJ has yet to speak on all these VOG theories posted almost daily. "He might have posted, yet I read many of these theories and have yet to see a reply from him on these posts." He takes the time to post on Longfaces posts and others yet doesn't dare involve himself with anything dealing with the Raid. Also the fact that we find new things out in the game almost daily. "Random bit of information...Did you know there is a Walker public event on the Moon, Venus and Earth? Many people do not know this." That's why I still have hope that this game has more to offer. Thank you for reading I hope others can check this new find out and can comment below with any *proven evidence or new leads that they find. *Remember you and your friends might know something and don't seem to question if everyone else knows it too. Please share any and all information that may seem like every day things that you may know. Thank you. *Oh and a side note when you're in the GateLord area be sure to keep an eye on the sky! You'll see the normal reddish colored dragon creatures flying around, but also a few huge dark looking dragons?! I've never seen these massive dark ones until I explored this area while playing VOG on Hardmode.[/quote] me and my buddy "sheets20036 and curtis211988" have tested the theory of Juss being 30s in the campus 9 region. If u go to all the other no respawn zones for instance winters run. All enemies turn to 30 fallen vex etc. Now we do believe there is something up with the gatekeeper plate but no clue what yet. But if u look aroun and Ull see what looks like 3 circles painted on walls and floors. With different lines pointing to different spots. It seems like a clock of sorts so I dunno maybe it's something maybe it's not. But the only other spot these things show up is on the new raid where U get teleported. Same sign same lines pointing to different positions. And also on the far back wall at the gatekeeper area there is another one of these signs. The biggest one with a line pointing to 6 o'clock again maybe it's nothing maybe it is. But for a sign to pop up so many times is kinda suspicious. Now there is 3 spots on the gatekeepers gate here the light comes in too open it. I do not remember playing this mission and 3 beams of light hitting it when I stood on the sync plate. Now that being said how many sync plates are they to open up the vault 3. How many are on the gate keeper door 3. Kinda suspicious. But we have thought a lot on this. And no clue how to actually get the beams to shoot over to it. But we will keep trying and exploring. If any new things are found I'll post more. Sheets20036 ps4 Ps. The dragons are nice I called dragons from the get go. Lol.

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  • ottknot2により編集済み: 11/12/2014 9:00:28 PM
    How cool. I posted something really similar this morning in the forum Vault of Glass EASTER EGG *Expert Searcher* Glad more people are actually trying. Huh

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  • Has anyone proceeded to the Endless Steps and to the Terminus to see if they also go to 30?

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  • Don't think too much into the Vex's level over in Campus 9. This happens with all strikes and missions. Campus 9 is an instanced area, not a public area. All enemies in instanced areas take on the level of the activity you are currently on. If you had a nightfall with the archon priest or the nexus and went into this area, they would all be 28. If you had a level 12 mission, they'll be level 12. A tiger strike, they'll be 24, ect. That said, there might be something with the gatelord's spire, but I highly doubt it due to the fact that if everyone in the fireteam gets over to campus 9 quick enough, waits 2 minutes, and then runs up to the vault of Glass's door, you can open the door without ever fighting praetorians. It's a glitch, and I don't think an area associated with something having to do with other VoG rewards/secrets would have something like that overlooked.

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    • If you go to Venus by launching VoG ALL mobs will be either lvl 26 or 30 depending on whether you pick normal or hard. I have made it all the way from the VoG spawn point to the massive fallen ship and all mobs were level 26. Its not specific to the Gate Lord area. All mobs on Venus are raised in level.

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      • What about opening the vault of glass, then heading over to gate lord area and seeing if any of the spires / light connects

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        • very good observation there, I really want to explore this myself now just like how there are level 22 enemies in the Juncture before the Terminus

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          • PhantomRavagorにより編集済み: 11/12/2014 9:06:24 PM
            Bump, and I feel like the line that potentially validates this during the story is how your ghost gives a synopsis of the Gatelord. Something along the lines of "...Vex that keep places locked out of space and time. Time? That can't be right." The Vault of Glass is one such area that is not a part of the normal timestream. That makes me feel more strongly about OP's theory that the Gatelord area has something to do with the Vault of Glass.

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            • I literally just got this idea the other day. What happens if you go left or right instead of opening the gate? Alas, I'm on a business trip out of state and can't do any exploring.

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              • When you do a raid or strike all Elite or Ultras (Yellow bar) enemy's in the area are scaled up or down to the level cap.

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                • This has to be something, it just has to be. Maybe the Gatelord Portal Opener opens up the Vex Portal after the jumping puzzle?

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                  • They wouldn't have put them there if they weren't guarding something, surely. I'm intrigued to see where this one goes.... Good stuff :)

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                    • Im a 29 but im decked out and can handle my self so if u change your minD GT:MR SPACORO 13

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