[b]Before you read any further guardians, remember this I am not able to search and test all these theories out by myself. Please for the community test some of what you can out and see if anything comes from it.
-Thank you[/b]
*Yes this is lengthy read. Yes it consists of some new information. Yes this is a must read for anyone trying to unlock any more possible VOG secrets. Lastly... *No I don't have any photos/videos because anybody can see this and my camera is faulty.
*Alrighty ladies and gentlemen I'm going to try and update you with some new information found. Also my friends don't really enjoy exploring so if you want to help and are 30. "No 29's this will be difficult." Please add me or send message on (Xbox 360 xCh3ckerx)
*The only things I can say for now is when you start the VOG on Hardmode go hard right and into Campus 9. Keep heading in that direction until where you fought the GateLord. As you'll immediately find out... ALL ENEMIES IN THIS AREA ARE NOW LEVEL 30! Fight your way through the hordes and you'll come to the vex plate where you activated the GateLord in the mission to get its head for the queen. Many players have speculated that the Gates outside of the VOG "There is two of them" and 1 at the jumping puzzles. "So in theory they are locked and you need a key to open them." The 3 main sync plates unlock the Vault itself, the two in Aetheons lair open the past and future timestreams. Which leads me here at this sync plate. Why would only on Hardmode on the VOG these enemies change to level 30? This area that leads you to the only known other sync plate. Also these guys are pretty tough in this area. Its tough to go alone even if you're a 30. Now if you follow this area up to where the GateLord use to be you'll see a laser above you that is similar to the one the spire fires off to open the vault. It bounces around a bit into multiple reflectors and ends up going to the GateLords ring..."yet I believe the laser splits into 3 but does not match up to the 3 lights on the ring." "*I will confirm or deny that part later." Anyways while you are at the sync plate look across to where the lasers fire from. There is only 3 red lights in this whole area and they are right next to where the laser enters this area. They seem to be set up as if check points.
*This is where theory is to come in. What if turning the lights in the VOG to blue actually has an effect? Maybe by changing them in the Vault it will change the lights in the GateLord area thus activating the sync plate which could open something?! Its not really that quite of a stretch when you think about it. The main thing that bugged me and my fireteam is why are these enemies such a high level? What purpose would they have since everyone goes straight into the VOG as soon as a spire forms. I know there are many other forum posts doing trial/error runs and such. If you could help spread the word it might just be the missing piece of the puzzle they need. Lets just work together and weed out all the rumors and gossip and use what we know and test to see it have any effect on this new area such as not letting sync plates be taken? Don't let the Templar teleport? Don't let a gorgon spot your fireteam? Don't get marked by oracles? ...and other prevailing theories. If any and all other Raid teams could help please check this out, it seems to be set up like this for a reason. In my opinion I believe either only 3 guardians go into the VOG and the other 3 go to this sync plate. Or all but one go in and that lone wolf goes through this area by him/herself fighting these hard enemies to get to the plate.
*Lastly I do think many people over think the raid, thinking there's so many more secrets than could fit in such a narrow space. The only reason I believe there to be more is...Since the beginning Bungie has always been crazy about 7 "possibly 7 chests." They are very sneaky with what they do, and also DeeJ has yet to speak on all these VOG theories posted almost daily. "He might have posted, yet I read many of these theories and have yet to see a reply from him on these posts." He takes the time to post on Longfaces posts and others yet doesn't dare involve himself with anything dealing with the Raid. Also the fact that we find new things out in the game almost daily. "Random bit of information...Did you know there is a Walker public event on the Moon, Venus and Earth? Many people do not know this." That's why I still have hope that this game has more to offer. Thank you for reading I hope others can check this new find out and can comment below with any proven evidence or new leads that they find.
*Remember you and your friends might know something and don't seem to question if everyone else knows it too. Please share any and all information that may seem like every day things that you may know. Thank you.
*Oh and a side note when you're in the GateLord area be sure to keep an eye on the sky! You'll see the normal reddish colored dragon creatures flying around, but also a few huge dark looking dragons?! I've never seen these massive dark ones until I explored this area while playing VOG on Hardmode.
[b]*Edit1: Keep this trending guardians, and lets see if we can actually get some results from one of these raid theories! Remember any and everyone is able to test this out if you're capable of doing the VOG on Hardmode.
*Edit2 : Alrighty guys/gals, I'm catching up on everything you've posted. Ill try to reply to what I can. Keep testing this and other theories out and PM me your findings.
*Edit3 : After reading some of your comments it has come to my attention that the level 30 guys may just be that level due to the Instance Zone. However I still recommend checking that area out due to it being the only area with another sync plate in the game. Which we need for any of these prevailing theories to possibly work of opening the interior portals. As I've stated before lets check this out as a community for the current Raid rotation and if nothing comes from it, lets shelve it. For now all we can do is trial and error guardians. Thank you all for your feedback it is much appreciated. [i]"Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light."[/i] - Dylan Thomas
*Edit4: I have yet to get a fireteam completely dedicated to this theory. I need 5 players of level 30 if possible... "due to damage increase and resistance advantages" Many players choose to only go after the rewards they know and not investigate the possibility of the ones we don't. If you would like to help me out message me on Xbox360-(xCh3ckerx).
*Edit5: Tested theory of no sync plates and no players dying to see if anything happens at the GateLord sync plate during the beginning of the raid on Hardmode. No effect on the plate or the Endless Steps area in general. However the lights in the secret tunnel below the first chest did in fact turn blue. We searched inside the secret tunnel for any chests and none was found. Ill keep you all updated with any new information. -Thank you[/b]
[b]*Edit6: Alrighty guardians after much exploring with these lights. I am split on wether we did some sort of challenge unknowingly or they just change color.
*Edit7: If there is any guardians that can effectively cheese Aetheon, I need them for the Xbox360 to test out ny final theory before I close down this thread. "As a hunter I cannot..." (xCh3ckerx)[/b]
[b]
*Edit8: Just curious has anyone come across anything new they might seem to think is a lead of some kind?[/b]
English
#Destiny
-
17 通の返信Anyone tried activating all plates and checking the portal at the jumping puzzle? There are 5 plates, 3 at the start and 2 in atheon room. That's 5 players, leaving 1 player to get through the portal?
-
4 通の返信Alright, let me clear something up. This has probably already been, but I feel the need to say it: The enemies in the gatelord area are level 30 because in non-public zones, all enemies are leveled up to whatever the level of the mission is. You can test this out with any mission, the results are always the same. Therefore I believe that the gatelord theory is a bust, or at least the reason behind it is. Anyway, if there is something else in the raid, it probably won't be discovered by a regular on the forums. It'll probably be leaked by a dev or randomly discovered by some group just messing around due to boredom. In the meantime, I've got gauntlets to level before the maintenance ^_^
-
1 返信Here's a good question. If Kabr was able to create a Relic from killing a Gorgon, why can't we do the same?
-
1 返信There is only one light... there is only one door but it changes... time changes. Atheon is not what he is but... he is what he is. Make your own needle, piece the veil and you shall see the light. The lights are pretty, they give a certain... warmth. -TMOS
-
1 返信This has probably been suggested, but since the VOG CAN be completed with as few as three people, has anyone tried sending 3-4 people into the VOG while 2-3 people hang out around gatelord area, activating the plate at various stages during the raid, and just generally seeing if anything happens as the other half of the team goes through the raid?
-
5 通の返信Chowieにより編集済み: 11/13/2014 4:35:23 AMThe reason Deej won't reply is because bungie doesn't have 6 players good enough to even complete the raid.
-
The possible reason why enemies in the gate lord area are 30 is probably the same reason why the enemies at the Ishtar academy in the nexus nightfall strike get a lvl 28 bump, a glitch. Look up the pocket infinity exotic bounty in YouTube, one easy way to get 200 kills is to get the initial respawn restricted and go back to the Ishtar academy while under this restriction and the enemies there get a lvl28 bump. Idk, maybe these two instances are not related as I initially thought after realizing that for this to happen you need to be under the restriction and it just sounded very similar.
-
1 返信How far can the 7th man go. Can he go under the first chest to the Templar, then continue under the Templar? Is there a path laid out for the 7th man? I think if you do it flawless you can carry the 7th man the whole way! Maybe that's why the light change colour to let you know he can pass. You can communicate with him so it's the only way to know. Just thoughts. I would test this theory but I'm on vacation
-
The vex mytho scope looks just like the gaylords eye . And the grimoire card says its true purpose is unknown ! And maybe reveal itself in the future . I strongly believe the mytho is a key to what we didnt found yet maybe something in that area! Another entrance for the raid on 30?
-
1 返信
-
1 返信Ir Yutにより編集済み: 11/13/2014 12:07:52 PMCampus 9, hmmm theres a very odd looking rock in the campus 9 area. Underneath the building where dinklebot learns about the vex, is a cave, go in the cave and jump up on the rock to the right side of cave, turn around and you get to see the shape of the rock and that it looks just like a skull, only its massive I found this weeks ago and thought it could have something to do with skulls from the halo universe. I didn't play halo much so I'm not sure if this would help. Either way it's a cool thing to look out for. I wonder if they are more somewhere
-
2 通の返信There is a secret path that runs FRM the first chest( at the front door) to the Templar I am still trying to get that chest to spawn it has to do with how you open the front door just don't know what yet
-
4 通の返信I have heard in the atheon fight you can run past the oracles and simply exit,with killing them. What if you kill no oracles and kill atheon.
-
2 通の返信Circadian Wolfにより編集済み: 11/13/2014 12:44:54 PMThe gate lord area changes to the level of the mission you're currently doing, that's why the enemies become level 30. There are areas like this on every planet, though I can't remember them all off the top of my head. The theory is interesting but the whole "why are these Vex level 30?" may not have anything to do with it. Also, could you put your text into paragraphs? No-one wants to/has an easy time reading a wall.
-
3 通の返信
-
4 通の返信Since the vex can manipulate time the dragon creatures flying around are probably the Ahamkara creatures from the exotic gloved Young Ahamkara Spine? In the grimore it describes them as dragons. I want to ride one... or kill it at least ha. Try shooting at one for me?
-
5 通の返信All this time & effort I put into exploring the vault, the chest was right under my nose. It was right next to me the whole time, has two nipples and is a 32C cup.
-
4 通の返信Well the fact that even after completing the raid and getting all known chests and killing all bosses that give loot it still shows rewards available proves we're all missing something.
-
[quote]*The only things I can say for now is [b]when you start the VOG on Hardmode go hard right and into Campus 9[/b]. Keep heading in that direction until [b]where you fought the GateLord[/b]. As you'll immediately find out... [b]ALL ENEMIES IN THIS AREA ARE NOW LEVEL 30![/b] [i](Maybe due to the Lv. 30 Raid Activity)[/i] Fight your way through the hordes and [b]you'll come to the vex plate where you activated the GateLord[/b] in the mission to get its head for the queen. Many players have speculated that the Gates outside of the VOG "There is two of them" and 1 at the jumping puzzles. "So in theory they are locked and you need a key to open them." The 3 main sync plates unlock the Vault itself, the two in Aetheons lair open the past and future timestreams. Which leads me here at this sync plate. Why would only on Hardmode on the VOG these enemies change to level 30? This area that leads you to the only known other sync plate. Also these guys are pretty tough in this area. Its tough to go alone even if you're a 30. Now [b]if you follow this area up to where the GateLord use to be you'll see a laser above you that is similar to the one the spire fires off to open the vault. [u]It bounces around a bit into multiple reflectors and ends up going to the GateLords ring[/u][/b]..."yet I believe the laser splits into 3 but does not match up to the 3 lights on the ring." "*I will confirm or deny that part later." Anyways while you are at the sync plate look across to where the lasers fire from. [b]There is only 3 red lights in this whole area and they are right next to where the laser enters this area[/b]. They seem to be set up as if check points. This is where theory is to come in. What if turning the lights in the VOG to blue actually has an effect? Maybe by changing them in the Vault it will change the lights in the GateLord area thus activating the sync plate which could open something?! Its not really that quite of a stretch when you think about it. The main thing that bugged me and my fireteam is why are these enemies such a high level? What purpose would they have since everyone goes straight into the VOG as soon as a spire forms. I know there are many other forum posts doing trial/error runs and such. If you could help spread the word it might just be the missing piece of the puzzle they need. Lets just work together and[b] [u]weed[/u][/b] ([i]huehue[/i]) out all the rumors and gossip and use what we know and test to see it have any effect on this new area such as not letting sync plates be taken? Don't let the Templar teleport? Don't let a gorgon spot your fireteam? Don't get marked by oracles? ...and other prevailing theories. If any and all other Raid teams could help please check this out, it seems to be set up like this for a reason. In my opinion I believe either only 3 guardians go into the VOG and the other 3 go to this sync plate. Or all but one go in and that lone wolf goes through this area by him/herself fighting these hard enemies to get to the plate. *[b]Lastly I do think many people over think the raid[/b], thinking there's so many more secrets than could fit in such a narrow space. The only reason I believe there to be more is...Since the beginning Bungie has always been crazy about 7 "possibly 7 chests." They are very sneaky with what they do, and also DeeJ has yet to speak on all these VOG theories posted almost daily. "He might have posted, yet I read many of these theories and have yet to see a reply from him on these posts." He takes the time to post on Longfaces posts and others yet doesn't dare involve himself with anything dealing with the Raid. [/quote] Just so your block of text isnt as discouraging for people who dont want to read it
-
1 返信
-
I was roaming around again yesterday outside the raid and noticed something. There is always a beam of light that opens the vault and it happened as well in the black garden gate. If you go to that place where you said the enemies were lv30, by the bunch of teleporters, you can see a bunch of beams of lights aiming different directions. I tried to follow them and shoot some in hopes of something. What I do suggest is, open the vault, then everyone go back to the beams of lights to see if their direction changed, or try to open the sync plate by the gate lord together. The sync plate isnt functioning when you go but maybe after opening the vault it does.
-
20 通の返信[b]Hezen Protective [/b] "The mysterious [b]Hezen Protective[/b] is the second major Vex behavioral unit on Venus. Concentrated around the legendary Vault of Glass and the Endless Steps, the site of a massive Vex gate and the access point to the towering Citadel, the Protective's behavior seems very defensive. But leading Cryptarchs and experienced Guardians warn that it would be a fatal mistake to think of the Vex as a conventional military occupying an area. Vex behavior is always a process, active and purposeful. The Protective is clearly engaged in a colossal project, but as with much Vex behavior, it's unclear whether their ultimate purpose is even comprehensible to us. The Protective may be reacting to an event that has yet to occur, or working towards a goal that - to us - is already historical fact. " [b]The Gorgons[/b] "Deep in the Vault of Glass, the fabric of reality bends to the will of the Vex. [b]WARLOCKS speak in tones of awe of the Gorgons [/b] With this being said i strongly believe that in order for a secret to be unlocked. We might need a warlock with a complete Hezen Lords raid set (i myself have a complete set). But first what is the Hezen Protective and purpose? I don't know if the Gorgons are part of this subtype or part of any. It does say this subtype is also around the Endless steps where you found this. Maybe the "Abandon your purpose" quote means this to go here with hezen raid gear! Theres so much stuff about warlocks which leads me to the Gorgons."WARLOCKS speak in tones of awe of the Gorgons " Why be specific about warlocks? This is just stuff that i tried to piece together just me trying to contribute im a 30 warlock on xb1 if anyone is trying to figure this out!
-
2 通の返信armored99により編集済み: 11/13/2014 3:24:50 PM