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*VOG Mystery* Originally posted and updated through October-December...
[b]Before you read any further guardians, remember this I am not able to search and test all these theories out by myself. Please for the community test some of what you can out and see if anything comes from it.
-Thank you[/b]
*Yes this is lengthy read. Yes it consists of some new information. Yes this is a must read for anyone trying to unlock any more possible VOG secrets. Lastly... *No I don't have any photos/videos because anybody can see this and my camera is faulty.
*Alrighty ladies and gentlemen I'm going to try and update you with some new information found. Also my friends don't really enjoy exploring so if you want to help and are 30. "No 29's this will be difficult." Please add me or send message on (Xbox 360 xCh3ckerx)
*The only things I can say for now is when you start the VOG on Hardmode go hard right and into Campus 9. Keep heading in that direction until where you fought the GateLord. As you'll immediately find out... ALL ENEMIES IN THIS AREA ARE NOW LEVEL 30! Fight your way through the hordes and you'll come to the vex plate where you activated the GateLord in the mission to get its head for the queen. Many players have speculated that the Gates outside of the VOG "There is two of them" and 1 at the jumping puzzles. "So in theory they are locked and you need a key to open them." The 3 main sync plates unlock the Vault itself, the two in Aetheons lair open the past and future timestreams. Which leads me here at this sync plate. Why would only on Hardmode on the VOG these enemies change to level 30? This area that leads you to the only known other sync plate. Also these guys are pretty tough in this area. Its tough to go alone even if you're a 30. Now if you follow this area up to where the GateLord use to be you'll see a laser above you that is similar to the one the spire fires off to open the vault. It bounces around a bit into multiple reflectors and ends up going to the GateLords ring..."yet I believe the laser splits into 3 but does not match up to the 3 lights on the ring." "*I will confirm or deny that part later." Anyways while you are at the sync plate look across to where the lasers fire from. There is only 3 red lights in this whole area and they are right next to where the laser enters this area. They seem to be set up as if check points.
*This is where theory is to come in. What if turning the lights in the VOG to blue actually has an effect? Maybe by changing them in the Vault it will change the lights in the GateLord area thus activating the sync plate which could open something?! Its not really that quite of a stretch when you think about it. The main thing that bugged me and my fireteam is why are these enemies such a high level? What purpose would they have since everyone goes straight into the VOG as soon as a spire forms. I know there are many other forum posts doing trial/error runs and such. If you could help spread the word it might just be the missing piece of the puzzle they need. Lets just work together and weed out all the rumors and gossip and use what we know and test to see it have any effect on this new area such as not letting sync plates be taken? Don't let the Templar teleport? Don't let a gorgon spot your fireteam? Don't get marked by oracles? ...and other prevailing theories. If any and all other Raid teams could help please check this out, it seems to be set up like this for a reason. In my opinion I believe either only 3 guardians go into the VOG and the other 3 go to this sync plate. Or all but one go in and that lone wolf goes through this area by him/herself fighting these hard enemies to get to the plate.
*Lastly I do think many people over think the raid, thinking there's so many more secrets than could fit in such a narrow space. The only reason I believe there to be more is...Since the beginning Bungie has always been crazy about 7 "possibly 7 chests." They are very sneaky with what they do, and also DeeJ has yet to speak on all these VOG theories posted almost daily. "He might have posted, yet I read many of these theories and have yet to see a reply from him on these posts." He takes the time to post on Longfaces posts and others yet doesn't dare involve himself with anything dealing with the Raid. Also the fact that we find new things out in the game almost daily. "Random bit of information...Did you know there is a Walker public event on the Moon, Venus and Earth? Many people do not know this." That's why I still have hope that this game has more to offer. Thank you for reading I hope others can check this new find out and can comment below with any proven evidence or new leads that they find.
*Remember you and your friends might know something and don't seem to question if everyone else knows it too. Please share any and all information that may seem like every day things that you may know. Thank you.
*Oh and a side note when you're in the GateLord area be sure to keep an eye on the sky! You'll see the normal reddish colored dragon creatures flying around, but also a few huge dark looking dragons?! I've never seen these massive dark ones until I explored this area while playing VOG on Hardmode.
[b]*Edit1: Keep this trending guardians, and lets see if we can actually get some results from one of these raid theories! Remember any and everyone is able to test this out if you're capable of doing the VOG on Hardmode.
*Edit2 : Alrighty guys/gals, I'm catching up on everything you've posted. Ill try to reply to what I can. Keep testing this and other theories out and PM me your findings.
*Edit3 : After reading some of your comments it has come to my attention that the level 30 guys may just be that level due to the Instance Zone. However I still recommend checking that area out due to it being the only area with another sync plate in the game. Which we need for any of these prevailing theories to possibly work of opening the interior portals. As I've stated before lets check this out as a community for the current Raid rotation and if nothing comes from it, lets shelve it. For now all we can do is trial and error guardians. Thank you all for your feedback it is much appreciated. [i]"Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light."[/i] - Dylan Thomas
*Edit4: I have yet to get a fireteam completely dedicated to this theory. I need 5 players of level 30 if possible... "due to damage increase and resistance advantages" Many players choose to only go after the rewards they know and not investigate the possibility of the ones we don't. If you would like to help me out message me on Xbox360-(xCh3ckerx).
*Edit5: Tested theory of no sync plates and no players dying to see if anything happens at the GateLord sync plate during the beginning of the raid on Hardmode. No effect on the plate or the Endless Steps area in general. However the lights in the secret tunnel below the first chest did in fact turn blue. We searched inside the secret tunnel for any chests and none was found. Ill keep you all updated with any new information. -Thank you[/b]
[b]*Edit6: Alrighty guardians after much exploring with these lights. I am split on wether we did some sort of challenge unknowingly or they just change color.
*Edit7: If there is any guardians that can effectively cheese Aetheon, I need them for the Xbox360 to test out ny final theory before I close down this thread. "As a hunter I cannot..." (xCh3ckerx)[/b]
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*Edit8: Just curious has anyone come across anything new they might seem to think is a lead of some kind?[/b]
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14 通の返信I am on PS4. Please feel free to add, I am actually wanting to do this on normal tonight, just an attempt to get the chest to spawn. I will explain what happened to our fireteam. We randomly decided to play the Vault. It was one of those...we did not expect anything to happen. We were all somewhat in a rush, not so much that we were sloppy, but enough to motivate us to get it done efficiently. We beat the spire no problems. Minataurs were on the plates, but not for more then 2-3 seconds max. Took alternate path. Every single one of us. Spent a WHILE inside the Jumping Puzzle. This is where we began dying, but only in an effort to find something new. We noticed that to the faaaar left of that inactive portal, was a rectangle shaped area that seemed almost like you could go there. So one of our titans did his fist of havoc, twice, once to get to a spot, then after waiting for super, again to get tot his place. He was able to walk all over there. In fact most of the ground beneath that portal, if you land right, you'll survive. There are also clearly boxes forming to get you to the portal if your coming from Gorgons, AND the same boxes spawn, at pretty easy heights from one another, to easily jump FROM THE TELEPORTER TO ATHEONS DOOR. So after a while of messing around here, we finally decided to continue on. Surprisingly, even the dudes in the Fireteam who completely gave no craps about secrets in the Raid, didn't leave. We were literally exploring for liek 45 minutes. These guys might not have explored themselves, and they said they were in a rush, just as I did...but we all felt like we were on to something. Oh yeah, no Spirit bloom chest of course, got only the exotic chest, gave no craps bout that other one (CAUSE ASCENDANT FREAKIN BUNGIE) We did prevent the templar from teleporting, albeit only ttwice. But that was enough to seriously put a huge dent in him well ahead of the usual schedule. So, we finally go in. We do both Venus and Mars simultaneously. Beat it quick. I solo'd Venus so I had a Relic in my hands and was right next to the conflux/venus teleporter naturally. It ended and this happened: A "windy" BLUE LIGHT shot through, before Atheon spawned, and the light made its way back THROUGH THE DOOR. The door IMMEDIATELY begins shutting. I am now frantically yelling in my mic, as others say they also saw a light, but think maybe it was an effect or visual trickery at hand. But no. Because as I run up to the door, it SHUTS ON ME, so no I didn't make it through, but the light curved tot he right. It was totally going for that portal! It had to be, I have no clue what else would do taht. After, we tried to wipe and reproduce these results. We found someone else with the checkpoint and tried it. Unfortunately, when you just spawn in on the checkpoint behind the door, no platforms spawn. I think this alone is a MASSIVE clue in the right direction! Disclaimer: I think the VoG is the best raid atm, its been frustrating, but fun, and I'm still willing to run it, whether for quick drops, even if I've already done it on all 3, I have fun. And I definitely have fun finding out mysteries and riddles like this. However, I HATE having my time wasted, I don't like being misguided, etc. So I kept hearing that Bungie said this, Bungie said that about the VOG. But I only heard that from other Destiny players, and it also aggravates me that so many people "do it for hte lulz" and post false info. Someone could BELIEVE YOU, and waste hours on nothing! Not cool. I am not lying to you guys. I saw that light. It flew through the door. It curved to the right, I saw that through the last little inch between teh 2 doors shutting. I cannot explain what we did that made it occur any better than what I just said. We tried reproducing it, not from the beginning, but from a checkpoint. I think, with a bunch of Black Hammers, a Hunter with Don't Touch Me's and Arc Blade maxed, and if all of us are preferably 32, we can make this happen the same way. In fact, on Normal, I can make the Templar NOT TELEPORT AT ALL, NO GLITCHES NECESSARY. I prevented him from doing so twice on Hard, and it made a huge difference in our damage output on him. Also with Weapons of Light of course. Before this, just activate spire fast and take alternate route, then do everything just as quick and flawlessly. Please, add me, I am not trying to troll anyone, I WILL RIDE THROUGH THIS WITH YOU. This weekend is perfect for me, so please guys, don't hesitate: PSN: Line_of_Sight64 lets crack this puzzle, and if not, lets at least know we gave it a damn good shot. :)
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Okay, just throwing it out there. There are 3 sync plates in front of the vault, one underneath in front of the vault, and one in the endless steps. Perhaps there is another one somewhere nearby that would make 6 total, one for each fire team member.
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4 通の返信Tried this out and once I stepped into the Gate Lord's portal it led me to the Black Garden. However, this time instead of the Black Heart being there, there was a portal that lead to somewhere. Once I stepped in I found myself in a place I had never seen before. It kind of resembled the Vex Citadel from the House of Wolves DLC. I saw a loot chest but I can't reach it because of a dumb barrier.
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2 通の返信Any activity started up on heroic has that effect. There are patrol zones and fireteam zones. If you're on heroic and enter that fireteam zone (darkness) no matter where you are that zone will have the level of enemies you chose before launching to the activity.
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I have a theory about the whole "chest between future and past" thing. What if it's not a chest at all. What if its an invisible zone at the center platform that increases better loot chances if you stay there until after loot drops. I've noticed an increase in better loot if I stood there until after Atheon is downed. Most people kill him and jump off right away. Just wondering if people can do some testing in the future to see if its valid.
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OneArmFugにより編集済み: 5/4/2015 5:11:02 PMThis is a theory i would like to put to the test. So there's alot of talk about the different color or the red and white lights, outside the vault of glass... I believe that whilst you are fighting the gate keeper, once you are defending the conflux you have to send one person out to the portal near the disappearing steps. And i'm not sure but i think once you have defended it, the light that shoots out the door goes to the portal and opens it n the guy out there has to go through it, before the first teleport. after that i think the team has to beat atheon first time and the person outside will be teleported outside the vault of glass. Back to the red n white lights, if you notice, there are white beams all around the path to the gatekeeper and the citadel, up behind the citadel is a red beam... i think once you beat atheon this beam will turn white, bring down the shield and you can go into the large beam that lifts you up to the top. people say this beam is in the next dlc, but i haven't seen any diffinative proof and also i know someone who has glitched into it and it works now... if its part of the dlc, why would work and have been working since the original came out?? looking for a group to try this shizzz out add me OneArmFug cheers
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1 返信Necropost. Has anyone actually tried standing on all 5 sync plates? There is 5 sync plates total and 1 mystery gate.
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I haven't actually played since I found this thread, but there's so much I want to try. I don't care that it's an old thread and don't know if anyone still cares. From what I can tell, the gatekeeper and the red/blue lights seem to be very interesting. I haven't actually seen anyone say anything about entering the gatekeepers portal. Nor have I seen a count of how many red/blue lights there are in the vault. I've entered the vault solo, and the lights I see in the alternate way are always red. I want to add my two cents. I found a hallway in the alternate path to the templar that seems to lead to a blocked entrance to/from the regular path. But recently the hallway has been blocked. I still care. If anyone else still does, I'm on 360, and I'm "Mr Bright5ide".
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1 返信On Ps4: ProMonster021 I am totally down to explore the vault if anyone needs an extra person, add me
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2 通の返信Just to add to this (and possibly save people some time searching for ghosts as it were). There are indeed areas where chest SHOULD have spawned. I believe the secret cave and gate below the entrance is indeed one of those places as are the disappearing platforms. However, it's now pretty clear that Bungie never finished the VOG in either design or content and as such these chests simply don't exist within game. Now Bungie may have plans down the line to revist the vault to finish Kabr's story and explain how he becomes Atheon when is anyone's guess. Until then the vault simply has a lot of content areas that are yet to be populated.
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2 通の返信I was mucking about in the Gorgon's Lair yesterday and noticed that, if you sneak up to the white light area (this is on hard) there is a click and a mechanical sound of something opening. This is similar to the thing that happens on the way to the nexus. It could just be an incidental sound but, It seems odd to have it in the Gorgon's Lair. My sneak path avoided all of the red light areas and I simply went in to investigate the brightly lit white light area. It just seemed odd to me that it was like a small pad of some kind and completely out of place in the maze.. Like I say. Not sure what opened/closed/changed in the maze but, I'm starting to think that whatever we are looking for to trigger the bonus is in the maze somewhere. Perhaps the aim was never to escape in a time limit at all. Ironically maybe it's the longer unspotted while exploring the better!
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I do know that if as soon as you spawn in on VoG, if you summon your sparrow and get to campus 9 as fast as possible, wait 2 minutes and go back the vault will open. Maybe some kind of timer is going and the vault isn't the only thing opening. Just a thought.
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1 返信Something happened pre dlc on Venus. I was doing patrol and I accidently entered the place where you spawn when vog starts. Anyways. On the bottom left hud, info starting coming in, "vex control the sync plates" etc. Minautaurs appeared and were all level 30. Updates kept appearing on my hud but there was nothing but level 30 enemies in that area. I guess I entered someone's vog session. It's only happened once. Might be a glitch, I don't know. But it was weird.
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7 通の返信Cageboyにより編集済み: 11/14/2014 7:11:22 PMJust had a thought while I was playing through the raisin normal, ended up with a really good random group from the forum and when we got to atheon he wouldn't port anybody. I think we hadn't yet wiped actually, that made me remember a lot of people saying that their perfect attempts were extra buggy. Maybe not wiping triggers atheon not porting so that you can trigger something else in the final fight. We tried going through the portals to find the relics and started going blind, then just wiped and next try was normal. Just a thought I wanted to add to the pool. Edit: he didn't port us on the second rotation either, which was when we went in for the relic, don't know of he would have ported us eventually
