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goodbytouにより編集済み:
11/4/2014 4:03:36 PM
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Why the Titan Bubble needs a buff
I want to start off by saying that I'm not immediately proposing the idea of letting Titans shoot out of their bubbles. But let's discuss the purpose of the bubble and of the defender class as a whole. The Titan has two subclasses, one of which is supposed to be purely offensive, and the other purely defensive. Now striker does its job magnificently. Offensive carnage. But the defender subclass... It's not defensive at all. If you've ever played Titan, you would know the bubble is a death trap. A stationary bubble in which nothing escapes. In fact, the subclass is incredibly offensive, with the highest orb output of any class in the game. It's not a [i]defensive[/i] class, it's a [i]support[/i] class. It excels in tiger strikes with a well coordinated team. But this is a problem. The bubble is best used to create a guaranteed 5 orbs. It should be used as makeshift cover. A place to collect yourself and be safe. It's not safe. Fix it Bungie. You have two options. Either, let [i]anyone[/i] shoot out of the bubble, or make it to where nobody except the titans allies can enter the bubble in the first place. As a Titan, I'd rather have the latter. It would give us the ability to truly create choke points and seal the enemy's advance off. Would be invaluable in the VOG and pvp to a lesser extent. In pvp it would only stop the striker from being able to enter the bubble and foh.
Edit 1: I'm seeing a lot of people saying it's fine with the helm of saint 14. It shouldn't take an exotic to make it worth it. Replace one of the useless perks with a blind perk and make the exotic bestow the perk by default. It should be a bonus. Not be required.
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3 通の返信CrimsonFury82により編集済み: 11/4/2014 8:37:07 AMFor PVE I would like to see the following improvements to Ward of Dawn: UI updates: Time remaining numbers next to the "Weapon of light/Blessing of light" text on the left side (like other class powers). Super bar draining to show time remaining on dome for titan (like blade dancer super) Dome having different visual pattern based on perk selected (armour of light\blessing of light\weapon of light). Dome blinking to indicate about to fade (last 5 seconds or so) PVE balance tweaks: Make the dome not disappear when the Titan dies. This completely screws over team mates using the dome as cover. Particularly on harder difficulties. PVP balance tweaks: Don't let Nova Bomb and Fist of Havoc damage people inside the dome (unless they're attacking from inside). Destroying the bubble with other supers is fine, just don't have the damage penetrate and hurt people inside.
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No super is perfect. They all have their downsides. Ward of Dawn is amazing in like 90% of fights because the only weakness it has is enemies that like to rush close and melee you, and those are not always around. Most enemies are normal shooters that will do nothing to you. Plus, even if they do come inside, you have two upgrades for it that make you tougher once you've entered it. It is an amazing super that saves countless wipes. Making it so you could shoot out of it would just make it broken in pve and pvp. Imagine a strike of 3 defenders with Gift of the void. Or even a raid of 6. You could chain back to back wards and kill everything with very little chance of even being harmed at all.
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11 通の返信I use the bubble for the exact scenarios you claim it doesn't support, and so much more. 1) It gives me a great opportunity to collect myself if I'm taking a battering. This thing is a life saver in the VoG during the oracle battle before Templar, when snipers are picking away your shield from every conceivable angle. 2) it does provide great choke point/lure if used correctly. The Saint helm makes it infinitely better, but isn't required. Drop it in the path of a Praetorian, have the increased shield buff active, and let the mino enter your domain of pain. Kidney punch him until there is nothing left but a purple floating cloud. 3) team damage buff. Go to town. 4) Sure, you can't shoot out of it- but you can easily back out of it and use it as a partial cover by shooting over it or around the side. If positioned well, a boss will not be able to hit you as you pepper them in the face. 5) quick medic rescues. Has your team died in the middle of a total kill-zone? No problem. Jet pack over and drop that bad boy on their corpse. Extraction made easy. 6) post-mission dance party dome.
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Both of those suggestions are not good. You and you're allies shooting out of it would be incredibly OP in PvP. Not letting anyone inside the bubble would make the damage resistance inside the shield pointless. Sounds like you might just need to place your bubble better. But I agree, it does sound like a striker super would be very annoying.
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7 通の返信I'd just like to see that other supers can't pop the bubble. I think the bubble perks would keep it balanced if you did that. Nothing sucks more than having a warlock walk by and bomb your bubble as you sit there waving.
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2 通の返信Stop sucking so bad and you would be an asset to your team. My defender is a boss who does not need you trying to make a "impenetrable" bubble. Damn everyone here just wants bungie to hand them free kills. Work for them fool
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10 通の返信If you're all huddling inside the bubble you're doing it wrong. No good team should ever be running Armour of Light, so there is no point all grouping inside. Put Blessing on and use it as a base of operations that your team passes through then spreads out again.
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they need to make it where any enemy that trys to enter it looses their shield. I myself play only as a titan and i can easily stop other titans bubble with just 1 grenade. they need to not allow enemy inside it
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Only needs a buff for PVP, PVE is fine. The best way to buff it in PVP is to make it where enemies can't use abilities in the bubble. Its should also cancel abilities when yoh enter it. This would make the defender a true "Wall against the darkness". Making it so it qould take a team effort to bring thee bubble down or uae a ranged super.
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the bubble is a life saver, or in some cases that i see in skirmish, people hide in and don't do a -blam!-ing thing. lucky, the titan can charge in with his hulk smash and still ruin those pussies day :) for a guy, your supposed to do the pussy pounding, not be pounded by another guy's dick lol so i find the bubble…. worthless if you don't use it right. just like any super in this game.
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3 通の返信I've proposed this before, but WoD should work just like Wizard's poison cloud; enemies that enter into it have their movement reduced and take DoT. The mechanics are already in the game so it should be easy enough to change and it would make the bubble significantly more versatile since players who rush it in PvP will be at a greater disadvantage and enemies would refuse to enter it since the AI is coded to avoid all dot effects.
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2 通の返信What are you smoking? The bubble is great if you use it correctly. Use the Armor of Light so when you stand inside, you take drastically reduced damage. That way anyone that comes in doesn't stand a chance (normally). Sounds like you are complaining because you don't know how to use the class correctly. It is perfectly fine the way it is. By the way, I LOL'ed when you said the defender was offensive because it drops orbs. Do you know what offense is?
