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「Guy」により編集済み: 10/31/2014 10:51:09 PM
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Grounds for a Class Action lawsuit against Bungie, would you sign?

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The people who bought this game go cheated and scammed into buying this game and it's honestly disgusting. After reading about the debacle with xbox DLC the other day I honestly hope someone starts a class action lawsuit against bungie. If it worked for playstation kiddies with bf3 then it sure as hell will work with this game. Below are some reasons as to why the gaming community would have a STRONG foothole in such a case. Also for those too ignorant here is a little vid on how much they actually lied to you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfhrONAp-c As someone mentioned earlier to me in a reply, heres pretty much everything I said plus a lot more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ5BpeHVTWY#t=70 First is the fact of false advertisement and lying to the consumer. Bungie stated, even when asked, during their trailers if you can go to certain areas of the map they said yes, if you can see it you can go there. They also said that each level will be the size of the entire game of Halo Reach "The destinations [scenarios where the game takes you] like Mars, Moon, Earth, each one is more or less the same size as the entire game 'Halo: Reach'." He also explained that the game has a much bigger team working on it: "In 'Halo', We worked in a team of 130 people. Now there are over 500 people working on 'Destiny'." What a lie that was. They also NEVER said that the playstation players will be getting any more exclusives other than the launch raid nor did they mention it UNTIL two days ago when they told everyone the date for the first dlc. Also the fact that all the DLC content is ON DISC and accessible from the start with Items already placed is theft. DLC means Down Loadable Content, and an expansion pack is supposed to ADD to the game post production. If the content is already on the disc its not an expansion pack but locked content. If it is on the disc then the producers have NO right to charge for it. Anything on the disc at launch SHOULD be free. Also the fact that bungie are charging the xbox players the SAME amount as the playstation players then saying they will get that content later for "free" is ludicrous, how is it free when we already paid for it. Also how is it fair that we are paying $35 ( $40-50 here in AU) for a pass the same as the PS players and then getting only a portion of the content, content that is ALREADY on the disc at that. I can honestly keep picking at EVERY detail that would hold and help in a class action lawsuit against bungie but I wont for sake of time and an already made point.
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  • Haha no way

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  • I said yes to a lawsuit for one reason: After following every network connection trouble shooting guide, both he and I keep losing connection when we play together. We paid for a product that Sony/Bungie failed to deliver

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  • TresslureGamingにより編集済み: 8/22/2016 11:08:28 AM
    man they -blam!-ed us again i'm usually not 1 to complain but we the ps3 user and xbox 360 users will no longer be getting dlc, or night falls, and no more agent of the nine xur, what the -blam!- bungie. i have been looking up in the law book i currently own and i've read every thing i agreed upon with destiny on the agreement and condition i have the season pass for destiny it says i will get every dlc that's comes out for this game which i'm not getting rise of iron or any after that so therefor i am contacting my lawyer about this, bungie is cheating us out of season pass i will sue do to false advertising, larceny and fraud, i bought the season pass to get all dlc's i'm not getting them so they have stolen my money, false advertised about season pass, and i was deceived into buying the dlc's from the consumer so i will take action if i lose i lose but i will state a point. now if destiny wants to give us the dlc's they promised and hold up there end of the bargain i will not go threw with it but if they don't fix it buy the time next dlc's comes out i'm suing, and it will not be pretty

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    • well here we are a year later and they DID IT AGAIN but WORSE this time...I am disgusted by the fanboys and obvious bungie trolls defending this current action...they've STOLEN the original game and given us a vastly reduced and altered version under the GUISE of an "update" which NO ONE could refuse, all to get you to buy a NEW game under the GUISE of "expansions"...you don't take away the original game and content, change EVERYTHING (gameplay, rewards, xp, even character voices), and then say "oh you can have it back...if you buy a new game"

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    • Definitely frivolous. Any bachelors-level course in licensing will show you why. Basically, it doesn't matter what bungie put on the disc, you paid for the license to play [i]x[/i] part of it. Additionally frivolous because Bungie is doing something sorta new here. It's not exactly subscription based, and it doesn't appear to be a traditional big bang upgrade between releases. Not so far, anyway, though that can change as soon as HOW. Remember, we're 3% of the way into a purported 10-year plan. If something is truly that far reaching and wants to be sustainable (and anyone working for a tech company will tell you this) then it is of the highest complexity in terms of development, planning, infrastructure, testing, economies, story boarding, and more. So, Bungie may have allegedly "promised a lot" (and really, [i]good luck proving that during discover[/i]y) but they did it under the umbrella of a franchise, not one release. If this angers you, then fine, I respect that, but I also say it's an incomplete point of view. Frankly, what we have today in Destiny excites the hell out of me, especially in terms of what it means for the future. Destiny is going to be a very different game 2, 5, and 10 years from now. If you don't see the appeal in that (or the necessity for Bungie to earn income to make all that happen), then, well, sorry for your loss, I guess.

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      • You would lose that lawsuit so hard lmao

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        • [quote]You ever been a party in a class action lawsuit? You bought a $60 defective product, you sign a class action lawsuit because you get a letter in the mail asking if you're a party to the class. Then years go by, and in the end, you get a check for $0.73, your compensation after the legal team takes their cut of the damages. [/quote] SO HAVE FUN WITH THAT.

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          • koolaidman565により編集済み: 10/27/2017 2:00:06 AM
            I wouldn't sign because I'm not a little bitch. [spoiler]edit: hahahahahah I don’t remember saying this at all[/spoiler]

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            • post is from Oct 31 2014

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            • At the end it is just A GAME - flaws or not just deal with that.... Lol DO U REALLY BELIEVE BUNGIE DOES NOT HAVE EXCELLENT LAYWERS??? MMH? U LIL FISH OF A COSTUMER DOES SH*T... NUFF SAID.

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            • Sixth Devil Kingにより編集済み: 4/17/2015 3:15:47 PM
              why should i sign something like this? because a baby in the forums cries he gets no raid? because some random idiot no one heard of cried in youtube? to get 20 bucks back 90% of you would spend on alcohol, drugs and cigaretts? to "teach" bungievision a lesson? do you actually think this is the first game in history that... i dunno... sells content thats already on disc? dlc not meeting expectations? oh yeah, because you expected something different? [spoiler] why do people still use e3 demo videos? they are -blam!-ing demos for gods sake. and tbh theres absolutly nothing in that video, besides the ship teleport and the scene with the queens brother that was "lied". maybe the "you can go to that mountain" part but lets be honest - the world is already empty, why travel to that mountain? so desperate for content that you want an empty area just to climb a -blam!-ing mountain? how stupid...[/spoiler] [quote]"In 'Halo', We worked in a team of 130 people. Now there are over 500 people working on 'Destiny'." What a lie that was.[/quote] even if there would be only 3 people working on it, i wouldnt give a shit. who cares how many people work at destiny? and did you watch the credits and count every single name? [quote]They also NEVER said that the playstation players will be getting any more exclusives other than the launch raid nor did they mention it UNTIL two days ago when they told everyone the date for the first dlc. [/quote] sony bluffed with "destiny is better on ps" so any human that has a working brain would expect exclusives / dlc-exclusive stuff for ps. i mean cmon. 90% of advertisment was for ps only, they spend a shitton of money just to buy some crappy timed exclusives... well, thinking now... that was kind of stupid xD [quote]Also the fact that all the DLC content is ON DISC and accessible from the start with Items already placed is theft. DLC means Down Loadable Content, and an expansion pack is supposed to ADD to the game post production. If the content is already on the disc its not an expansion pack but locked content.[/quote] thats only half true. while it is true that they already put in some areas that we could enter later with tdb dlc, they did in fact build raid, "story missions" (as far as a 4 minute walk and shoot mission can be called "story mission") and a couple of weapons / armors. not sure on the strike part, but i guess that wasnt on disc either. also we just recently downloaded 4,3gb or something. at least half of that are some stuff (most likely weapons and armors or something) that will come with how. oh, when youre already at it: why not sue mortal kombat x guys? they locked Goro and the Gold Scorpion skin. you know, its already on disc but to get it you need to either buy the collectors or buy it from the store. now have fun with your class against them. locking content already on disc is as old as the queen. [quote] If it is on the disc then the producers have NO right to charge for it. Anything on the disc at launch SHOULD be free. Also the fact that bungie are charging the xbox players the SAME amount as the playstation players then saying they will get that content later for "free" is ludicrous, how is it free when we already paid for it.[/quote] who decided that? your morale? while i agree that content already on disc needs to be free, the people who sell that stuff to us decide whats free and what not, not you. if it would go like my mind the game would actually have a story, level limit would be 99 and there would be more skills and abilitys for your characters. but you know, i dont work for bungievision. i still dont get this part of the people... the dlc costs 20 bucks period (or whatever it costs in 'murica, old brittain and the rest of the world). the price is fixed but since sony paid bungie to create exclusive bullshit because they thought it would be a clever marketing strategy bungie made a few extra things for sony. and in the end, we infact get it for free / for the same amount the ps players paid. or do you want to say you paid more? [quote]Also how is it fair that we are paying $35 ( $40-50 here in AU) for a pass the same as the PS players and then getting only a portion of the content, content that is ALREADY on the disc at that.[/quote] that price wasnt set from bungie, its set depending on your country. the season pass in switzerland costs 50chf (more or less 55$) while a new game costs something about 69~79chf (ca. 74~86$). and do you see me crying about it? thats simply how industrie works. for a more simple understanding; 1kg of delicious spareribs costs 11chf (about 14$) in switzerland. in our german neighborhood the same thing costs 1€. thats how the world works dude, prices vary depending on where you live. "portion of that content" - wait untill september or something, then it will be on your xbox too. well, if you play for that long ofc. [quote]I can honestly keep picking at EVERY detail that would hold and help in a class action lawsuit against bungie but I wont for sake of time and an already made point.[/quote] i want by no means defend bungie but im sure almost everyone could destroy those arguments, sry^^'' now for my last words (pun intended, more or less); grow up and get mature. just because everyone else says they want to sue bungie it doesnt mean you need to do it too. but by all means, do it. if you can record it and make a video im gladly watching you not even understanding how law works. failures make you grow up too, sooner or later.

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              • Putting in geometry, unfinished geometry, on the disk was done to reduce downloads later. It doesn't mean an area or the content to fill the area was complete. I have slow Internet, and appreciate this being done. Think of it as an outline that hadn't been fleshed out yet. The Arena isn't a Raid, but is endgame content, with high replayability, based on their comments, and will be more accessible to a much larger portion of the Community. It sounds to be totally new, which will give us yet another, different activity in Destiny. How is that bad? Another Raid is coming. Nothing says it will be part of another DLC. Imagine if it's put out this summer, and is open to anyone, even if they didn't buy the DLC, as a thank you to the entire Community. I'm not a Desticle. I do however have faith in Bungie. Wait and see. If it doesn't deliver, then Rage. I probably would too.

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              • You just got Alpha Protocoled....remember how good that game was "Supposed" to be? Get over it.

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              • You have one problem. You agreed to the terms of their EULA. You have no grounds or rights when it comes to the game. When you agreed to their EULA you agreed in advance to any changes they made/ make. Also, nothing is on the disk really. The game is ran off their server. Your disk is nothing more than your license to play their game. TLDR: you have no lawsuit because you agreed to their terms. Stop trying you are getting nowhere.

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              • TL;DR boo fvckin hoo

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                • Lol won't ever happen. No coward on this forum has the balls to go to court. Not to mention if they can't afford $20 they won't last a day in court. They would turn into a overnight viral Internet joke. Someone please go to that old dinosaur judge Judy so we can watch the comedy show on TV.

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                • I'm not American. I don't sue anything that moves. We just get over it.

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                  • Holy f*cking necromancy Batman!

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                  • Dude everyone got there monies worth and then some stop crying many people enjoy this game I think your expectations may have been a little to high

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                  • Bungie please ban Op for life

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                  • Here's the thing tho. It's 20 frigging dollars. If the stupid raid debacle seriously bothers you that much then I have a much better idea: leave the series. Trade it in and get something else. There are going to times where you make a bad purchase so you need to learn how to deal with it, and trust me suing or getting a refund will almost never be a good option. And if you tell me it's about the principle of the matter, you're still an idiot. Businesses do not take word of mouth seriously; if you want them to make change then again leave, don't buy anything else from them, and hope that enough people do the same as you. Claiming that you're going to sue when you obviously don't have a good case won't get you anywhere.

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                  • Ugh, who necro'd this...

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                    • Pointless. As much as I respect your feelings, this will go nowhere and isn't worth pursuing :-/

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                    • Nope. Fools errand.

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                    • I would agree with Bdobbins. He's right on a lot of things. But we know bungie did bad. We know we shouldn't really trust them on certain things in the future. But he hasn't yet said anything about house of wolves.

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