This is the first and, probably, last time i'm going to reply to a post on a forum. The answer to your question is so obvious,its axiomatic. Bungie has stated they want no one form of weapon to be superior to another e.g. Auto rifles compared to Scout rifles. If you can through up a wall of bullets, as the Auto Rifle is intended to do, and critical enemies at will, what is the point of a scout rifle (if say the auto rifle will do more damage with a scope, aiming at an enemies head)? If one weapon is superior to another, say pocket infinity, what is the point of Icebreaker? No one weapon should be infinitely better than another, if the goal of the game is balance and equity in weapon usage. If the goal is imbalance, sure keep one weapon type or one particular weapon better than another. As tangental as this may be, since it deviates from my post and the conversation at large, people need to get over themselves. They think this game is there to provide them with loot, not that the game is there to provide them with enjoyment. If the game is all about the loot, versus some form of joy, then, by all means, go to another game that rewards you for showing up and doing little to no work (like World of Warcraft). Stop crying and complaining, these nerfs were long overdue and have been in the pipeline for months. The fact that you don't want them is not a product of these nerfs being bad, but a product of your subjective interpretation of what this game is, should be and should do. This is a byproduct of a selfish, self-serving indulgent attitude, rather than that of a mature, understanding adult. Apropos, grow up and learn to deal with change, rather than ranting and raving. No ones cares to listen to it, or wants to see another forum post about how Destiny has failed you (like it is something they are personally doing to you or the collective, thus you a representative agent and are expressing our will). Most of us are fine with this patch or will be, since change is both good and inevitable. *edit: change months to weeks. *edit: the point of doing raids is a sense of achievement and fulfillment, not gear. Gear is secondary. Doing a raid once and getting full Kabar's does not make one a raider. Doing Vault of Glass multiple times, with the goal of doing better, each and every time, and also getting gear is the point. The satisfaction of doing it is plenary, the gear is ancillary (unless your prorities are messed up and you are just a shallow, wannabe gamer) *edit: read your name is chaz, since this post sounds like someone named chaz wrote it.

I don't agree with the latest hot fix. There is a trending topic out there with more than 5k votes that show only 6 % of the players care for PvP and making changes based on PvP feedback guess what it does to the majority of players Bungie? It makes their PvE experience less enjoyable (talking about the weapons nerfs) and like someone else put it very eloquently 'I never saw the Cabal, Hive and/or Fallen ever complaining that the guardians were over powered'

Here's the facts, like it or lump it. More people play crucible. Period.

Apart from beating the raid on hard you got to be lucky to get the vex. Have done it 3 times on hard and only helmets, sparrows and ships, thats about all i got for those 6 attempts

So the weapon I've spend this time using and upgrading that was just now doing an acceptable job in PVE and even is even slightly under-powered in lvl 28 instances is now going to lose a percentage of damage? Fail. Unless you are knowingly just screwing your PVE players because Destiny intends to maintain their longevity through PVP. Good luck with that. I'll be playing Fifa until Far Cry until I see attention given back to PVE.

Anybody who says the Vex is "fine" in PvE doesn't have one. I might as well go back to suros due to having more ammo. It's a struggle to kill a yellow enemy with it. This also leads to another problem, the amount of time it would take for me to level 2 more weapons after JUST spending all my energy on leveling vex. What will happen after that? I level my scout rifle and icebreaker for PvE... next patch will be "Icebreaker nerfed, scout rifles nerfed. LOL" This is a pointless task in redundency and right now I don't even feel like playing the game to do this.

I think we should go on a world wide strike everyone stop playing until they do somthing right pass it on and share it STRIKE AGAINST DESTINY!!!!

When they make these nerfs, they really need to only change them for PvP. Was the Vex Mythoclast or Pocket Infinity OP for PvE? No. Now people who play majority of PvE have to suffer these guns demise because people said they were too OP in the crucible. Utter bullshit.

I'm really beginning to hate this game... Hate the fact that the balance is getting really messed up... hate that the game is MORE unstable than at launch (who can say they have had a Raid where NOBODY got kicked to orbit at least once). I hate the fact that we have to shoot the bullet sponge of Atheon for like FOREVER and then our guns get nerfed so much we now have to shoot him for even LONGER. The PvP players are ruining PvE... and I hate PvP. There was nothing wrong with auto rifles in PvE... and nerfing Pocket Infinity is just mental. In fact why not make all the guns into a single gun... then the balancers will finally be happy. My favourite game is going to the dogs... Sorry Bungie... you are ruining your game.

I truly dislike when companies nerf weapons instead of just buffing the weaker ones. Why punish people??

"Haven't played crucible for weeks." (Played crucible 4 days ago.)