I wish the people against matchmaking were intelligent enough to understand that matchmaking is OPTIONAL. You have the OPTION of using it or not using it. It makes all of your arguments against adding it moot.

"you paid for a game so its your choice" please tell me how your $60 contribution entitles you to game changing decisions it can also be your choice to find friends or group to progress through the raid together at predetermined times there are far more factors involved with matchmaking and there is enough Q.Q about people afk or leaving the strike playlists

Matchmaking is only a bad idea the first week the raid comes out. By now everyone should know what to do. I have never done the raid and i know what you're supposed to do. i feel like if matchmaking isn't added in the next two weeks i'll have nothing left to do in this game and sell it because loging in to do the same bounty for the 70th time isn't exactly what i'd call enjoyable

No. It definitely would affect us. Have you used matchmaking before? You can't do a strike by yourself, or just with 1 friend. If someone from my team gets booted? Guess what, good chance his spot will get filled by someone else. If you want this idea to go over well, you need to propose it as something other than matchmaking. A new opt-in matchmaking system or something. I personally would never use any such option. Why? Because the chance of getting a team with even an ice cube's chance in hell of completing the raid is infinitesimally small. So small in fact, that my calculator would have to convert the number to scientific notation. Even if you do finally get a good team together, you know someone just wanted to play for an hour and will end up leaving you when you need them most. Then it is once again time to pray to the matchmaking gods that you don't get another worthless raider.

Blizzard already demonstrated how matchmaking raids work out with their Looking For Raid system. Wipe, after wipe, after wipe. Plus it takes away from the whole point of a raid experience in my opinion. You just end up with randoms who are in it for a loot grind and the moments you would have with your crew, funny stories or epic moments wont ever exist.

I have read a few comments where people are stating the arguments against matchmaking are unfounded. Can you guys read and comprehend simple concepts. Absolutely no good would come from raid matchmaking. I know you all want a group but have you even tried. I am level 29 and usually get 2 or 3 raid invites by just loading the tower. I have two separate raid groups. There is also a lfg tool and multiple forum threads. The question is why restate the obvious. For all you pro matchmaking kiddies try to actually read the responses to your threads and use critical thinking.

I don't know the solution but a lot of the problems people are saying will happen with MMing I am already experiencing with groups from DestinyLFG and groups from here. I've played the raid 3 times and haven't finished yet because people are quitting out, either at the start because they get sick of waiting for an hour just trying to round up a team, or at the very end just out of fatigue or whatever. Or just little quirky things like yesterday we had a team of 5 and one guy has a friend but he wants the 5 of us to join his friends fireteam instead of him simply joining our fireteam that are already in progress outside the entrance. Or people want to fumble with the ps4 party chat instead of just using the ingame fireteam chat. It's just a big juggling circus act just to play it. You have to juggle your PC or your phone, incoming and outging friend requests, messages, invites, and in game stuff as well. It's not a big deal or a Herculean effort or anything to do so, but all those little things all add up to be quite cumbersome just to play a video game. I mean the Raid is cool and challenging sort of I guess but it's more of a challenge just getting a team setup who is going to complete it. And that's not even mentioning playing with cool people who are having fun and not getting all worked up over a game. And 6 people talking at once is a mess audibly.. I don't know it's just all a mess really. And it's too bad because the Raid really could be a cool gaming experience but it's just a hassle to play it at all.

Most anti matchmaking arguments are all based on logical fallacies. Just saying ad hominem, slippery slope, begging the claim, etc. Food for thought.

Considering how bad kids are in strikes and simple things like the crucible, I dont want you scrubs to bring your autism in my raids. You want to raid, then make friends or join a clan. Stop wanting everything handed to you, entitled whiney bitch.

"We paid for the game, so it's our choice." No it's not. You paid for the game, you're entitled to your opinions but you by no means have any choice-making power. Sit in your corner.

Here is my problem with matchmaking, we already deal with people going afk in strikes and even crucible matches. Matchmaking would be okay if there was an approval system in which gear and skill can be judged. I'm not an elitist, I just think maybe people could join a clan or even try the lfg website that I haven't had a chance to try (because I'm in a clan). Raiding isn't supposed to be easy, and neither is finding a raid team.