This forum is full if people that like to cry about how over powers things are. Tbh I'm quite sick of it. So I'm going to take the top 3 offenders of being " op " and tell you counters or options that can go toe to toe with them. Note I will not be including the use of heavy weapons as counters because I feel that's a given 1. Blade dancing Since hunters were hitting. 15 players have been crying about how broken blade dancers are. Now don't get me wrong like all supers they are strong, but you can deal with in many ways. A. Invective or other full auto /fast RoF shotguns : not only can these shotguns kill a blade dancers while they are trying to close to you. They also can prove to be very usefull in PvP. B. sunsinging with the solar skin and shielding perk: this lets you go head to head vs the blade dancer and can kill them between you melee and grenade. C. Ward of Dawn with shielding or saint 14 helm. This stops them in there tracks and lets you kill them D. Defender grenade that stops players fr useing abilities. : this E :panic super as gunslinger, void walker, or striker 2. Suros A . Shadow price: All versions of can match / or out preform suros at all ranges outside of very long range B. close on the player : suros slow RoF makes it vee hard to use at close range. Abuse this fact 3. Vex mythocast A. Be moble: it's very good but it's slow RoF and makes very on forgiving if you miss shots. Abuse this fact