stop crying. im sure youd use it if you had it.

The existence of the Vex Mythoclast makes me want to KEEP playing. I won't be satisfied till I have it.

I look forward to getting the Vex Mythoclast so I can hunt you down and ruin pvp for you. Just because you cried about it on the forums.

Try shooting from a distance. If a player rocks that gun we usually gang up on them with grenades titan bubbles. Need to analyse the team your fighting and react according to their play style.

Huntards make people want to quit the game. Where is your thread to nerf that broken class. Nothing in pvp is well balanced. Proof: the hunter class exists in the game in current form. Stop crying. You gotz no skillz.

With the damage it does it should be a heavy weapon instead.

The thing can fire almost at the speed of the Galahad-E and deals as much damage as most Scout Rifles. Its optimal TTK is twice as fast as most Auto Rifles, Pulse Rifles and Scout Rifles average kill times. Yes, it's OP. The difference in TTK from Mythoclast to any Exotic (with the exclusion of some Hand Cannons) primary is far greater than the TTK difference from any white primary and said Exotic. Kills in 5 shots to the body, far faster than even unbalanced Auto Rifles kill to the [i]head[/i]. Meaning [i]you don't even have to aim[/i] in order to instantly win a 1v1 encounter. You can hit the other player's armpit and he started shooting at your head, never leaving your head, with a Galahad-E 100ms before you even started firing and YOU'LL STILL KILL THEM. The other player can be using a class that is going to be NERFED soon because it is too good, hit all shots on target on the HEAD AND start firing a tenth of a second earlier... and the other player with a Mythoclast that hits them in the toe, leg, arm, chest and then belly will STILL BEAT THEM. Auto Rifles and Shotguns will be nerfed soon. Then what? Mythoclast won't take a hit. It'll be laughing, because its only common contender is gone. Scout Rifles with a similar shots to kill have less than half the rate of fire. By the time the second burst of your Red Death Pulse Rifle is starting you're probably already dead. Hand Cannons like The Last Word/Hawkmoon can compete but few players use them and they still have to be more accurate to win. You'll have to treat the Mythoclast like a Heavy weapon. Why? Because it has the DPS and TTK of a Heavy weapon. It takes one more shot to kill than The Swarm/Deviant Gravity-A but fires faster than them... those are MACHINE GUNS that require HEAVY ammo. It is, essentially, a Heavy weapon in your Primary slot and needs to be countered as such. It does unbalance the game. Maybe you can beat players with it. Chances are, the players you've fought with it are PvE centric and don't play PvP much. Anyone good with this gun will be an absolute monster. Would it be okay if beating the VoG on Hard sometimes gave you infinite Heavy ammo for a Heavy Machine Gun in PvP? Because that's basically what it does in terms of DPS/TTK. It should be stronger than other Exotics, since gear is supposed to play a role after all and it is hard to get. It just shouldn't be AS strong as it is now. It doesn't fit with the current tiers of gear we have. It should by Mythoclast > Exotic > Legendary. not Mythoclast >>>>>>>>> Exotic > Legendary. I say either lower the RoF or increase the shots it takes to kill someone by one to both head and body.

what do you expect level capped players to do with their toys? the same thing over and over? no, these weapons were made specifically to keep them entertained melting noob faces. Best you understand this now.

Go to MCC Ill gladly make you come crawling back to Density.

I like how people say it's totally justified because you have to earn it. As if that somehow makes it less overpowered.

"Exotic Weapons are designed to look, feel and sound overpowered, but to not actually break the game. " Mythoclast currently breaks the game, Bungie will nerf it. Only a fuking idiot would say that it is fine. /thread

Two players of equal skill walk into a room, one with the mythoclast one with any other weapon in the game. The player holding the mythoclast will win nearly every time because his weapon kills faster than any other gun in the game even some machine guns. Thats op...

So quit. So tired of whiners in these forums.

Know your map, range and keep the awareness up. I know, it's frustrating knowing someone has to put in less work for a kill, but it's how it is currently in this unrewarding "competitive" multiplayer. Just mid range them, I've never lost a mid range to them yet. I use PR for reference.