well shit, go play the vault on hard 5-10 times, you'll be sure to get it.

Faced the mythoclast for the first time yesterday. Barely noticed it. He lost big time. No nerf needed :)

Tested this weapon today.. Kills no faster/efficiently than some auto rifles, including some Legendaries. Suros Regime out-performs this weapon. Universal Remote (and other shotguns) will end you faster within their effective range. Hawkmoon was just as lethal, required 3 shots avg to kill, and was better at longer range kills. Mythoclast has limited range, accuracy that gets sketchy beyond close/mid range, and with shots ceasing to do ANY damage (vanishing?) at a range where you can still kill effectively with Suros. Non-head shots were just as effective as Suros. People fear this weapon because it is "new" and they aren't paying attention to how often many other weapons kill them in just as few hits and just as fast (or fewer/faster even). Stop being afraid of the damn thing, and learn to deal with it as you have all the others. Skill of the user, unfamiliarity, and fear is what's killing you. Your thinking everything that you don't own that kills you is unfair and must be nerfed is exactly how so many games in the past have gone to hell with over-nerfing and constant weird swings in balance. This weapon falls in line DPS-wise with other exotics, and is basicly a shorter range Suros with pretty lights, a smaller clip, and an intimidation factor you [i]allow[/i] it to have over you. Keep that in mind, and kill the person using it like any other. Seriously, there are Legendaries just as dangerous as this thing.

Funny because everytime I run into one, I always have The Last Word.

You get it from beating the hardest content on the game. You deserve a reward that's really powerful.

Well, how about they design the Iron Banner for these really cool and powerful guns, and normal Crucible for balanced gameplay? The problem I see right now is that there's nowhere to go if you're looking for a balanced PvP match. Some guns are a little too good, which makes them desireable to use by most people (Vex, SUROS, Shadow Price, etc.). However, those who prefer to use other weapons; like Pulse Rifles, Hand Cannons and Scout Rifles, feel like they are at a disadvantage when fighting against the 'norm'. So what could be a good alternative? Personally I think they should make a mode where everyone stands on equal grounds and are rewarded by skilled gameplay (as opposed to just having powerful tools), and a mode where everyone can use these crazy weapons they earned. In my opinion, the latter is what the Iron Banner should've been, but unfortunately it ended up being an exact copy of what we already had. (TL;DR) Bungie should create a game mode where everyone is on equal ground, rewarding skilled gameplay; and one that lets people use the weapons they earned however they want to.

shouldn't be nerfed sully for the fact that its hard as hell to get! Beating. The Vault of Glass. On hard. That takes a lot of effort, nerfing it would just make the people who have feel like they wasted their time earning the best gun in the game only for it to be nerfed because people complained. Even though damage is normalized in pvp crucible so I dont get why you people are complaining. This gun is suppose to be the greatest reward for doing such a feat as beating the vault of glass on hard

I highly doubt the op has even seen a mythoclast in PVP let alone been killed by one. You sir are just posting to post, regurgitating the same word vomit as 98% of the entitled little shits on this forum spew minuet after minuet, hour after hour, day after day. You add nothing constructive to the world and your ignorance literally bullies my brain into an intellectual stupor.

I got this gun today.......it's so OP my face hurts.

I love my vex mythoclast :)

Should not be nerfed.