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platelampにより編集済み:
9/30/2014 1:29:20 AM
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Thoughts on Destiny Controversy from an Employee in the Industry -DONE-
I have deleted the original post contents. My goal was to inspire those who might be taking Destiny's faults to extreme levels to think a little bit more about the reasons why they may feel deceived. Only to receive too much trolling, disbelief and questioning my credibility into oblivion.
I am enjoying the game thoroughly, and hope Bungie resolves many large quarrels with the game.
Better itemization would be nice
Better communication
Better matchmaking
Variety in missions
These are my top complaints.
It was interesting to say the least, to those that responded positively, and constructively, I thank you.
Someone commented earlier who said it best what I was trying to convey:
"While perhaps they have not phrased it sufficiently, we believe that the author is mainly objecting to the rampant hyperbole and vilification that permeates so much of the objection to the game. Destiny may not meet one's expectations and we firmly believe that everyone should be free to assess the games merits personally, but the constant bombardment of tirades marking Destiny as 'the worst game ever' or asserting that no one should like this game are both misleading and presumptuous. All these rabid screeds do is act as noise, drowning out the valid reasoned complaints."
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#Destiny
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12 通の返信Just because it's "normal" for the game industry to do this, it doesn't make it OK. For example, if they told you that you can reach as far as you can see in the game and they decided to take it out of the final game, they need to let the people who had been waiting for the game to come out know that there's such a change. Let's say you're really into sports cars, and you've been following this new BMW or whatever. They told you that the car will have 600 horse power and seats 5 before the car comes out, but something changed between then and the release of that car and people who bought it found out it only has half of the horse power. What do you think would happen? BMW would have to apologize and recall all these cars because they failed to notify the public about the changes. But somehow it's OK when such things happen to gamers? Are we lesser people? Don't we deserve at least to be treated with honesty? What they're doing is criminal. I know it's your job and you see it in a different light. But if you buy something thinking it's one they because the seller told you what it is and you find out after you get home that it's not what you were led to believe, wouldn't you feel ripped off?
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8 通の返信The problem is the notion that anyone under the age of 20 (25, really) has a valid opinion that people want or need to hear. These sniveling little pukes would probably cry about the Warp Whistle being all the way on World 1-2 and that earning a High Score while getting that frog across the road was "too grindy". Most of these spazzes are too young grasp adult concepts like Marketing to make a product more appealing than what it actually is, or Capitalism and turning a profit out of later DLC releases, or the big one - Patience. TL,DR; Kids are dumb. It's our duty to ignore them.
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5 通の返信
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3 通の返信http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization OP is probably a Bungie exec in disguise
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4 通の返信I love Destiny. Great foundation for years to come. But one cannot completely overlook the, large, large, flaws within this game. Now if they give us the story that should have been in vanilla Destiny 1 then, most of the problems will be alleviated. Because you should NEVER have to buy an expansion to know what is going on in the primary story. It is suppose to expand upon an already built story, which Destiny lacks. So basically, if they fix the hardly existent story without placing it behind a paywall, we're all good. But if not then, don't expect alot more from Bungie. And sorry, I don't feel bad for anyone who is away from their family for work. It doesn't excuse things. I don't get an excuse when I mess up at work, because I'm away from my family.
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While I understand your point, and do not consider Destiny a bad game, some of your arguments are moronic. I do not give a shit how many hours they put into anything--it is not relative. They are well compensated. Or they are idiots. One of the two. The final product should not have to be judged on how much time was put in. Similarly, I should not have to take developers' feelings into account if I am upset about their product. If I paid for it, I am entitled to let them know how I feel about it. Especially if they give me an open forum to do so. If you like the game--great! If not, then this is a perfect place to vent. Similarly, if you vent on a public forum, we are free to rip you if you sound like a douche.
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2 通の返信Good to see that sensible and reasonable people are starting to come out of the woodwork of this community. This game isn't perfect, and it [i]never will be[/i]. Nothing can ever reach a point of perfection, but if people express their negative opinions in a more constructive way instead of whining, then they'll be one step closer to helping Bungie make this game the best it can be, and [i]everyone[/i] will benefit from that.
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Agreed. DLC is always a hot topic and is especially criticized when gamers find out that extra content is locked away. But what is the average play time for a Destiny player? 30 - 40 hours? In that respect, that beats most games right there. Perhaps we're getting too tied up with the idea of MMO? I like the game. There are things that need to be changed and it sucks that there was locked content. I'd actually be upset if there was only 15 hours of gameplay, but there's more than that. A lot more.
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Progressiverainにより編集済み: 9/29/2014 9:51:00 PM[quote]There is plenty of fun to be had here for 60 dollars.[/quote] [quote]I've accepted Destiny's weaknesses and see the potential of it's glory. [/quote] lol says the level 15 with 6 hours played. According to Bungie you haven't even started until you're level 20 so how could you possibly speculate as to what this game has to offer?
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UZGOVにより編集済み: 9/29/2014 9:58:12 PMI liked the game, a lot, but im really worried for the path that game companies are taking. And the time that we should wait to see this expansions of the history . Its a really good game in so much aspects but i think that fails in kepping the people attached to it, so Bungie expects that we are going to replay it and replay it with only a minor changes in the missions, not even the IA's spawn places change or the type of enemies. Im really worried because, i want to care for Destiny in the future, really i am. Sorry for the inglish, not my native tongue.- Vulpux Rex!
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2 通の返信krun19により編集済み: 9/29/2014 7:25:42 PMGreat post. There will always be people who feel they got a raw deal. Even if the game was 60 cents they would still feel this way. Trust me, I own a company that sells products all over the world and this will never change. These people are very self entitled. They are never satisfied. It's actually laughable and sad (for them). If Bungie feels like I do (and I know they do) these people represent such a small portion of their market population that it real doesn't matter what they think. You placate them and move on. The best statement/words in the post was "60 bucks". For 60 bucks this is a great game. For any of you that disagree, you're entitled to your opinion (i wouldn't expect any less of you). If still feel for $60 that you got the shaft then you should probably play less and earn more money so $60 is not much of a dent in your pocket. My humble opinion - worth every cent of my $60, and it wasn't; oh well its just $60. I've paid more for much, much less.
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1 返信the game is interesting and terribly disappointing at the same time it is designed to be like a Facebook game as you are on a timer and must return everyday if you have any hope of advancing yet you are returning to do the exact same thing. So a zero I think not id give it a five because the promises they broke are from months or days before release and as a pve player that hates the pvp I don't appreciate the Exotic bounties forcing me to the pvp side because I will never complete them I am both enjoying and very disappointed in this game.
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3 通の返信I like Destiny but the game has flaws like a lackluster story and a very repetitive endgame. also the RNG could use some tweaking. I only 'complain' about this game because I want the problems to be fixed.
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Only thing I'm upset about is the fact they purposely cut content to sell it later as dlc. I'm not upset at Bungie for this, but at the gaming industry in general and the path its headed down. I don't blame bungie for milking their cow the best they can, but its still not right.
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I am personally impressed with Destiny. If this is the content and continuing attention to player feedback after only a couple weeks, I am absolutely stoked for what is to come in Destiny. We have gotten a taste of what free (FREE) update content and additions Bungie has for us with Queens Wrath, additional crucible modes, Vault of Glass, all amazing! I am totally stoked for what the 2 upcoming paid expansions will bring, the first coming in the Holiday season (I know I will want to come home and shoot things on the tv after work, classes, AND holiday carousing!). All I have to say is I am a bit disappointed with how much of a point they made out of "if you can see it, you can reach it" and even "no loading screens". I hope in the next ten years they can follow through with improving tech to carry out these statements. I was almost brought to tears the first time I ran into an out of bounds timer in game, gazing out at the awesome landscapes unable to touch that mountaintop I was told I would be able to...Yes I am crying about this stuff! These aspects are what drew me to the Destiny hype...I will hold on, I love Destiny, and I hope someday these promises that would be MY perfect game of truly freely roamable worlds and epicness will come true. A little variation in personal land vehicles and perhaps some "not loading screen" ship actions or light display controls on ships would be neat.
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2 通の返信Personally I'm disappointed for what the release of this game was content wise, the game looks and feels fantastic, which is why i'm still excited for the coming months of updates and patches, and even the first DLC since i prepurchased it. This game still has loads of potential and i'm sure they will be learning from past mistakes.
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"I'm not here to argue with you. I believe that, as the player, your emotional reactions to our games are never wrong. Those magical things that happen in your brain when you play are not things I would ever try to talk you out of. We learn from them. We listen to that because it's valuable to us." - Deej on reddit
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7 通の返信BuckNasty2501により編集済み: 9/29/2014 11:41:55 PMyou getting a promotion? Stop trying to defend this shit. Its bad for the industry as a whole. Selling a starter pack, calling it a massive game, then selling the rest of the game after charging 60 dollars already, is shitty business. Devs/publishers have been trying to figure out ways to charge us for shit we already paid for, for years now.
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4 通の返信Promised content > amount of work. Someone could build me a house out of wood that took years.... But They forgot to put termite protection... House doesn't matter now that it's being eaten away .... Sure you can fix it but the level of satisfaction is much lower. Point is they gave us a game that was eaten away from its original glory.... And I'm sure the termites where activision
