You know I really don't mind the lack of match making, but don't those that are against notice the irony? You're essentially telling those that want match making to join a random group of people, a clan, if they don't have enough friends for Raids. Yes. Of the 20 people something people on my PSN account do you know how many are getting Destiny? 1, alot/most of my friends aren't FPS fans. Or at least don't have interest in Destiny. (I'll admit that some on my PSN friends list haven't logged in for months) I joined one of the many list your PSN ID threads and got some needed people. But I haven't had conversations with these people. I only know them via this site and the desire for assistance when the game releases. They are a group of randoms and I don't mind. As we progress we'll learn more about each other and what not. Same thing I would do in any random group, or if I joined a clan. Try to make the stranger less strange and more familiar. To those that joined clan with people they already knew, congratz, but to the rest it's the same thing as the match making. You're going to be surrounded by people you don't know and see where you stand. Try to make your voice/opinion heard and work towards the common goal.

The bottom line is that YOU don't want MM for raids. If you don't want it don't use it no one is forcing anyone to. Just like no one is forcing anyone to play split screen. It's just having the option would be nice for some people (switching consoles, not on the forum etc.). It would be a good option for people that don't really have the option to always hook up and raid with their friends. I think that if they added matchmaking there should be a penalty and reward for the person leaving and the team. Give the team better stuff (more ammo, shielding, health drops and equipment at the end) for finishing and don't let the person who backed out play a raid for 24 hours. If they do it again for a week and if the problem continues ban them from raids in total.Also sometimes you have to give randoms the benefit of the doubt. Who knows they might just become your best ally, friend, spouse. Just saying be open to the idea of anything. :) The other thing you have to realize is what about dropped connections? Match making or friends there's always the possibility of losing connection. The "down a man" thing is just a cop out in my opinion. If you play hard and smart it doesn't matter how many people are in you party. Just gotta clutch bro. jk Also if match making were to be added and you get a dbag with an annoying voice in your party just mute him. The last thing I'm gonna say is I don't care either way if they put MM in or nerf/buff guns or even add beards (which I'm glad they will be. lol) I just wanna play the damn game for what it is better or worse. I've waited a VERY VERY long time for this game and I just want to enjoy it with everyone. See you starside SOON guardian. P.S. none of this was meant to be dickish just hopefully expand and exchange opinions.

I dont see the harm in matchmaking... While i dont care if there is one or not.

Nobody cares about this anymore. Love how these plebs join some shitcrust clan and think they're so elite now. Chill. Bruh.

[quote]People in favor of raid matchmaking are giving randoms the benefit of the doubt. This is your ignorance or your stupidity coming into play. You're trusting someone to have your back that very likely doesn't give a shit about you. Some ADD 11 year old that will rage quit at the first sign of adversity. He will be rewarded by sliding into another matchmaking raid in no time flat to get carried by someone else. Where you will be down a man or more trying to soldier on through hours of content at a massive disadvantage. Think through your position a little more. Better yet make some friends or join a clan. Then you'll have one less thing to whine about. Then you can go back to complaining about the lack of custom matches or a nerf/buff to ruin the balance of the game.[/quote] [b]Case in point:[/b] Imagine the OP is a random player that you were just paired up with in matchmaking, who is now free to belittle you in voice chat, as a member of your raid team. Hopefully you won't have any opinions over the next several hours about how to approach the challenges of the raid content (or anything else that he disagrees with); no doubt you'd be told immediately that you're ignorant, stupid, and a whiner, at which point you'll probably kick him from the team, or drop out yourself. Three hours or more of this sort of pointless abuse sounds like a great way to spend your a Saturday night, no? This is also the primary argument against proximity chat: random people are randomly assholes simply because they think their opinions are more important than yours, and this sort of self-absorbed arrogance is an epidemic in the gaming community. #Destiny means #Randoms. [i]Clan up. Make plans. Have fun.[/i]