Beta was meant for testing only unfortunatley. It pains me to say this but guys we paid for a pre-order of a game not the beta. The beta is just a thank you and help us find any problems in the game. If bungie wanted they would've just hired more beta testers for the game and left us yearning for a taste of awesomeness, but they didnt, they wanted us the community to try it out to see if there is anything wrong with it and let us have more than a huge bite of what we are buying. By the way also mentioning that their isnt any point in complaining for our equipment back if your just gonna get better stuff in the end and just dismantle it for parts or glimmer. Plus their is also loot looping and other ways to get better gear than what you already have. Like I said I hate admitting it because i got cool stuff that took a pretty good while to get but we're just gonna get better stuff later in the game. Lastly playing the beta now you have the upper hand than others that didnt play it (even though it was open to every body in the end minus having ps4 users get a head start and then second with xbox one),but those that took advantage of the game now have knowlegde of getting better weapons / armor, also adding that ppl are even sharing this knowledge as well. Otyer than that this is just my opinion based on what I have been reading and analyzing so far in the forums.

I feel it should be brought over because of the time we put in and the blood and sweat we drilled in it also. I dont care about being ahead against other people more so the darkness and kicking its ass for how strong it has become.

why not both

I had good stats with all my characters that being said I still want nothing tho be brought over to the full game. It's a beta for a reason do I can have fun and not worry about stats. No progress needs to be brought. If it is I won't cry tho.

Its a Beta for a reason, to test. It was a damn good one at that. Just start over when the "actual" game comes out with the knowledge you have after playing the Beta = Major Advantage.

No it's a beta people knew that their character might not transfer over and now that it's gonna happen everyone is whining everyone should start off as level one it's fair and it only takes around 2 hours to get level 8 if you spent a long time on this game getting good gear That's your fault

You knew what you were getting into. Since before the beta it was clear that progress wouldn't carry over.

Define progress...

The only thing I would want to carry over is my iron banner cape because I like the full cape look it has other than that reset that bitch

can I dip their thingies in gold?

I would like to see aesthetic items carry over such as emblems and class armor only because emblems were on a timer at shops so you wouldn't know when you'd see it again. Having said that I won't be heart broken if it gets wiped. It was fun getting gear the first time and will be the second. I don't understand the argument for stat gear being carried over. The only reason the gear I had was maxed was because I was capped at 8. I would have normally gotten rid of most everything I had in an hours time when I leveled to 9. 9/9 can't get here fast enough!

If you don't want your progress then just delete it.

I don't like how these days people expect to get everything handed to them. Sure we put hours into the beta, but come on guys. It was a beta. I spent at least 15 hours in that game knowing I was going to lose everything, and I kept going to try and get better gear. Besides, most people pre-ordered the game, so we get Vanguard items right off the bat. Therefore, ALL of our equipment will be useless as the Vanguard items are 300% better. Even if we get one weapon/armor from it, it still makes the rest of our gear obsolete. Betas are for testing, not for spoiling greedy players just because they played a test model of the game. That's what exclusive emblems and things are for. They dont change the game, but they give you an awesome emblem that makes people who dont have it jealous. For me, the start of a game is the best part by far. Why ruin that by letting you kill everything by glaring when you put the disk in? I understand wanting to keep the skill trees, but whats the fun of that? Its always so exciting to unlock a new skill. Bungie, please don't take away the feeling of developing as a Guardian, and growing more powerful.

Wouldn't be much of an advantage when everybody preorder the games! So you're thinking they're going to be playing the game some people letter just to be playing all the time overnight all day so they're going to be already at max rank so when we wake up the next morning we don't even have a vanishingly they're going to have the advantage so yeah why should we not be able to keep are guns and character

There is always pros and cons to both arguments but I voted no mostly as my opinion is that everyone should start at the same even playing field when the game launches. Part of this has to do with changes made that balance the game or changes content before launch... people who played before those changes shouldn't benefit from them as a result. Just a hypothetic example to illustrate what I mean would be that if they lowered the glimmer accumulation rate then people who hoarded glimmer during beta would have had an unbalance chance at accumulating it and people who didn't play beta would have to work harder to obtain the same level of glimmer to buy items.

Ffs.... i cant wait for 9-9 so this drama will end. You bunch act like spoiled criebabies who wont take no for an awnser and start demanding and begging. I ask you plz "man the **** up"

Omg, this debate, like the one about the size of the game has to stop. We will all find out come 9/9. Let me ask you something, in what final game, ever, does your level 8 character get legendary, rare, exotic end game items? I've played more games then I care to admit and I can tell you. None. Doesn't that tell you folks that the devs either changed things around for the beta or there was some major glitch/bug, whatever, that made it happen? If you think the final game will give you this kind of stuff at such low levels you are wrong. As I said, let it go until the 9th. No need for all this hostility towards each other. We will all find out then.

I mean , why would you want to transfer your stuff from the beta? Just start over it is not like you got to lvl 50 or something no! You can complete the beta in 3 hours max. "But my weapons an armor!!" Yeah those weapons an armor might last you like 20 minutes into the game since you will lvl up and found much better gear. "But i spent 30+ hours", well congratulations, you contributed greatly in the testing of the game so it is at its best once it launches. Stop this nonesense, stop crying, just start over how you are supposed to. This was just for test purposes.

What's the problem with carrying stuff over. If people only got to Level 8 or whatever then they will hardly have much of an advantage anyway and maybe will just have something they never find again. It won't take anyone new long to get to Lvl 8 anyway so what's the issue. It was open to everyone people.