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7/22/2014 8:56:09 AM
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Bungie was LYING about "MMORPG"? :(

Firts of all - Bungie Destiny is a really good game i love it to the MAX, i had pre -ordered it like a year ago and it didnt dissapoint me. But i do have something on my mind i can loose it here where people can read it or wont read it doesnt matter after all.. Like Bungie said - " Its an MMORPG, its all about looting" Remember when people kept asking if there would be an competitive multiplayer back in sept/october 2013? This was your answer at that point. They said Destiny is all about EXPLORING and LOOTING to stack up your gear and prove them that you are a guardian who has fought on the frontlines.. Well that was only talk if you ask me.. Destiny has become a game like Call of Duty or Halo or another FPS online. I've got my reasons for that just give me a minute. First of all, once they HIT level 5 there is only ONE PLACE for the guardians to check - The Tower. Most of them dont even play Destiny like it should. They just play online and thats it. Yea of course they would they get the SAME LOOT like those players who kept fighting in a HARD strike for an good hour. Bungie thats wrong - they get the loot by playing online thats fine - but why do they get the SAME LOOT as a guardian who has really put some effort to play Destiny as an MMORPG like an guardian and not ONLY MULTIPLAYER? Why did you guys make a "RPG" of it in first place? Well that being said i do have another thing to share. Dear Bungie, I exploresd so much and of course I enjoyed it but the loots you find are very very minor for the time you explore. I mean i could explore for 3 hours and i could find only a few ghosts and a loot box - getting the same loot you would get by JUST playing crucible. thats not fair at all. SO basically a level 4 guardian gets the "same-ish" loot as a guardian who has a higher rank? And i conclude that EXPLORING is just TIME-ELAPSING? We are better of to play ONLINE to get our loot? Thats not Destiny if i look back to those 2 years of information i read, heared, and got from various sources on the internet and E3. I hope someone has a solution to this - Destiny is Great but we have to be critical. Bungie didnt want a Halo or a Cod nor an FPS - They wanted a game EXCLUSIVE.. and its still lacks that power to have that title. GSix Out.
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  • This entire post is simply nonsense. Idk where you were getting your info from, but very little of it is right. The game was never marketed as an MMORPG. Bungie made that clear from the beginning. It was only ever said to have similarities and elements from the genre.

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  • To my knowledge, Destiny has no offline mode. Just putting that out there.

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  • High Charityにより編集済み: 8/11/2014 7:57:32 PM
    Actually they said its [i]not[/i] an mmo/mmorpg. Shared FPS was how they described it.

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  • I thought they said l it would be "like a mmo " not a mmo

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    • Another one of these? Destiny is a social fps. Key difference: in an mmo you play with everyone currently in game....which at end count of the beta was 6.5 million people even broken down to servers that's thousands of people and yet....players per area was never more than 16. If this was an mmo, don't you think the tower would have been severly over crowded? It has rpg qualities just so it smooths the social aspect to this FPS game. I advise you to look up genre definitions before you whine. Bungie said from the beginning this was the first social fps. Now then back to the magical purple ball!

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        • All I needed to read was paragraph 1 to see this is entirely wrong. The game IS a MMORPG, if you choose for it to be. Was at the tower in the beta, and recent player list maxed and then some. That is a ton of people. Every game with campaign and multiplayer has the same issue: "F single, ima be a no life and do only online." Never changes...

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          • 1. You played A BETA...and not the full game. So you are jumping to conclusions about was INCOMPLETE version of the game. 2. It felt like a FPS, because it IS a FPS. MMOs tend to be third person games, but they don't have to be. They are just EASIER to design that way, because the programming is less demanding, and servers can take on more players. 3. You don't get the same loot for PvP as for PvE play. So far it seems the armor for the various faction vendors will be the rewards players get for high-level PvP play. But if you want access to Vanguard/Speaker gear...and the exotics that are probably only available as loot for high-level strikes and raids....PvP players are going to have to step out of The Crucible and play the PvE content. ...and they'll have incentive to do so, lest they get outclassed by better equippped players in Iron Banner matches. 4. You're not going to find much loot from simply "exploring". The game is set up so that all the best loot comes from taking on---and defeating---powerful enemies. Either in PvE play or in the Crucible. So if you just run around and "farm" chests, and avoid firefights....you'll get lots of glimmer. But you won't earn the reputation or the experience to buy the really good gear, and no really good gear will "drop". Even if you just simply hang around too long in an area with enemies too far below your level, you'll eventually see the quality of engram (weapon and armor) loot drops dry up. So the game forces you to keep moving forward, and taking on new challenges, and better and more powerful opponents. in order to level up and to get the best gear.

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          • Sakib23により編集済み: 8/10/2014 7:45:53 PM
            I have already replied to some comments within comments, but i thought i need to say this. WoW, as you all know has become one of those games that people refer to in order to compare and contrast with other online games. WoW was not the game it is today 5 years ago so to speak. Destiny will evolve. And thanks to our constructive criticisms, given if Bungie pays attention, it will come to the common grounds to appeal to most players; be it rpg, fps, sws etc.

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            • Bungie has expressed quite strongly that this is NOT an MMO. They never wanted that to be the term for the game. MMO inspiration? Sure. But MMO? No. Shared first person shooter is the term they used. So maybe that's why it feels like an fps to you. Because it is.

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            • They've used the term "Shared world shooter" many times. They have explicitly avoided calling it a MMORPG and seem to correct people who do. I do remember one interview where they said they wanted every piece of loot that dropped to be special and make you excited, and that is something the Beta lacked as most of the loot I got was low leveled or useless. That's something I hope was just the Beta having higher loot rates.

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            • Yeah like everyone has said. Its not an mmo. Its billed as a shared world shooter.

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            • They stated explicitly innumerable times that it would NOT be an MMO.

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            • Guys look Destiny is a FPS DC Universe Online minus most of other players if you played it then you know what i mean if not then you dont know shit and dont act like you do.

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            • They never said it was an mmorpg

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            • Uhhh..

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            • Firstly, Bungie said Destiny ifs not an MMO, it's just like one. Secondly, I'm sure there's legendary and exotic weapons that can't be obtained through the crucible, only exploration, and vise versa. The beta had a limited number of weapons and armor, so of course it seemed like everyone had the same stuff. As to your final point. I spent a roughly equal time in the crucible and exploring. I only picked up 2 or 3 items from the crucible, and more items than I'd care to count from old Russia. And that's in roughly 12-15 hours in both.

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            • I'm curious about something. Are you people high? Like, smoking drugs? I'm referring to ones like you that type up these ridiculous 5 page essays that only amount to crying about nonsense. ARE YOU HIGH SIR?

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            • Who say Destiny is MMO? do destiny have healer ? Or buffer or debuff?? Answer is no! What make you think it an MMO in first place anyway?

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              • Playing crucible doesn't give you the same loot as exploring and looting. You get much better weapons and gear for by exploring and that's a fact

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              • What we played was a beta. The game has a bunch additional aspects we haven't even seen yet. they said that the game will have mmo elements so wait until the final release where you have full access to the whole game before u jydge.

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              • NEWNSにより編集済み: 8/10/2014 7:39:17 PM
                i found this very hard to read... 1. because of the grammar. and B. because its mostly invalid...

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              • You're a -blam!-ing idiot. They've never called it an mmo and you're going to quote them on calling it an mmo? At best you're an idiot who doesn't even know how to use quotations and at worst you're a flat out liar.

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              • Shardholderにより編集済み: 7/22/2014 3:13:35 PM
                1) from day one when someone referred to Destiny as an MMO, Bungie was saying it's not. 2) I played PvP quite a bit, but I also did about the same amount of exploring and you know what? Not one of the guns I use or pieces of armour I have is from PvP. So I don't see why you think people in pvp are getting better stuff. 3) You don't get ghosts in Crucible 4) It is much easier to accumulate glimmer in explore than in crucible. Trust, I have extensively tested this 5) They made it an RPG because its fun. We have barely scratched the surface of this game. If you look at the upgrade tree's of some of those legendary weapons and armour you will realise that it is going to be seriously time consuming to get 1 gun to max level. That grind and aquisition of loot is the main drive of RPG's and so far destiny is doing it right. 6) Since when do you decide how Destiny should be played?

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                • I only wish this game was as you describe. I'd love to stay in the Crucible and not have to do that same tedious and boring strike over and over again to get decent gear. I find it so gullible that people genuinely believed this game was going to be some deep rpg and many still think the Crucible won't be the main focus of the game. It's like people just blanked out everything Bungie has ever said about the game just to make it fit into their little rpg world. Bungie make competitive online shooters, they were never going to make a nice casual coop game for the whole family.

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                • [quote]Firts of all - Bungie Destiny is a really good game i love it to the MAX, i had pre -ordered it like a year ago and it didnt dissapoint me. But i do have something on my mind i can loose it here where people can read it or wont read it doesnt matter after all.. Like Bungie said - " Its an MMORPG, its all about looting" Remember when people kept asking if there would be an competitive multiplayer back in sept/october 2013? This was your answer at that point. They said Destiny is all about EXPLORING and LOOTING to stack up your gear and prove them that you are a guardian who has fought on the frontlines.. Well that was only talk if you ask me.. Destiny has become a game like Call of Duty or Halo or another FPS online. I've got my reasons for that just give me a minute. First of all, once they HIT level 5 there is only ONE PLACE for the guardians to check - The Tower. Most of them dont even play Destiny like it should. They just play online and thats it. Yea of course they would they get the SAME LOOT like those players who kept fighting in a HARD strike for an good hour. Bungie thats wrong - they get the loot by playing online thats fine - but why do they get the SAME LOOT as a guardian who has really put some effort to play Destiny as an MMORPG like an guardian and not ONLY MULTIPLAYER? Why did you guys make a "RPG" of it in first place? Well that being said i do have another thing to share. Dear Bungie, I exploresd so much and of course I enjoyed it but the loots you find are very very minor for the time you explore. I mean i could explore for 3 hours and i could find only a few ghosts and a loot box - getting the same loot you would get by JUST playing crucible. thats not fair at all. SO basically a level 4 guardian gets the "same-ish" loot as a guardian who has a higher rank? And i conclude that EXPLORING is just TIME-ELAPSING? We are better of to play ONLINE to get our loot? Thats not Destiny if i look back to those 2 years of information i read, heared, and got from various sources on the internet and E3. I hope someone has a solution to this - Destiny is Great but we have to be critical. Bungie didnt want a Halo or a Cod nor an FPS - They wanted a game EXCLUSIVE.. and its still lacks that power to have that title. GSix Out.[/quote]some gear can only be found in the crucible just like only some gear can be found in the campaign and some gear might only be findable in raids or events. While all will have gear you can get through any method the good gear can only be found in certain things like a assault rifle you see might only be obtainable by completing a raid on Venus and a piece of armor might only be obtainable in multiplayer

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