オリジナルの投稿元:Secular Sevens
I think the point you're making here is that you feel a trans person will derive sexual stimulation from being in the same bathroom as their preferred gender. Correct? If I'm wrong about this interpretation, please correct me and elaborate.
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You have to keep in mind that some (if not a sizable portion of) trans women are straight. By this I mean they are born male, but transition to female and are attracted to males. They wouldn't derive sexual pleasure from being in a women's bathroom. But what of the gay/bi/pansexual community? A gay male would theoretically derive pleasure from being in the men's bathroom. And I must stress, this is hypothetical for the sake of argument. By this logic, shouldn't you also be opposed to gay people using the bathroom of the gender they're sexually attracted to? Just think about how many gay guys you may have shared a bathroom with and never even known they were gay.
My point here is that though you may see trans people (and possibly others in the LGBT community) as deviations from what is correct, it doesn't make us all sex-crazed deviants. Just because a gay guy's in a bathroom with you, that doesn't mean he's interested in you. He's just trying to take a leak like you.
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Well, personally I believe homosexuals, trans, etc are a perversion/distortion in the "nature", if you will, of man kind. Now that I'm a Christian, I would call it a sin. But prior to my acceptance of Christ, my perspective was still the same, but I came to the conclusion by scientific means. In my opinion, trans are psychologically effected by sociological dispositions in society, which in turn results them to rebel or act against their intended design/nature. The reason why I'm opposed to unisex bathrooms, is bc this will further create even more disposition within society(gender roles, parenting roles, etc), which ultimately leads to moral decline as history shows. This is just my logical and reasonable opinion. I hope no one is offended by this... I have nothing against gays or trans, I actually have some gay friends, but I like to entitle myself to the truth regardless if people disagree or are offended. Again, I don't have a problem with the lgbt community, you do you. I just personally think, you're out of line with true self, and ultimately I want people to be be centered and enlightened :)
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Dr Mulhollandにより編集済み: 9/12/2013 3:59:45 AMEnlightenment comes in many forms. Many different off-shoots of Zen Buddhism teach that one can never find their true self, simply come closer to understanding parts of it. Same with the Abbey of Thelema, Alchemy, etc. If we're talking about deviations from nature, we might as well hold a grudge against self-control when dealing with others. Nature takes on a whole new word with humans - a word we as a species have yet to properly understand and define. I can't remember a single time in my life that I ever felt like the male I was born as. As a little kid I had two different journals that I'd write in at the end of the day: my boy journal was about my day as the boy I felt like, and my girl journal was about how I thought my day would be as a girl. One can argue being -blam!- at five had an effect, one can argue being a paranoid schizophrenic effects it. My main rebuttal to those is that even if they shaped my life now, what makes being happy as a woman any less a good option? I'm happy as a woman, why suppress it to cause more trouble in my probably short life? And if you saw me, you'd barely see me as a girl. I'm very manly looking, it's just how I've come to develop. I don't wear dresses, I don't wear bras. I like wearing my signature Hawaiian T-shirt/khaki/sandals combo. It's just that I view sex and gender as two very different terms. I don't follow social definitions of gender rolls. Hell, I never think of gender rolls when dealing with other people. Why am I doing this spill? I'm simply trying to show you that just as not all Christians are the same, not all trans people are the same. I've destroyed myself and rebuilt my life into a state of enlightenment that I can call suitable. The point is that I'm happy. And you can say I'm embracing complacency, but I can say the same about you being religious. We're both stubborn, so I'd like to just have a mutual understanding that you've felt things I'll never feel and you've found happiness in ways I'll never find, and visa versa.
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Good read my friend :) Can ask you tho. Do you consider yourself a woman trapped in a mans body, or do you consciously think that taking on the role of a woman suits who you are more? Bc some people deviate into certain lifestyles solely determined by society itself, rather than the conscious, fundamental understanding and [i]knowing[/i] what and who you are and who you want to be. I guess my main point in my previous post is that I dislike the confusion and disposition that is a result of lgbt community, and not the lgbt community themselves as individuals. And I essentially want a foundation of morals which a [i]free society[/i] desperately needs to survive. It's no coincidence that as our morality as a society declines, the need for coercive govt inclines. The principles of Christ are a moral outline for a [i]free civilization[/i] to thrive. The whole Bible is basically about freeing yourself from oppressive govt. I bring all this up bc, in my perspective I look at the grand scheme of things, rather than on a personal level... Which is why I never understood why ppl got offended by my opinion on this matter, bc it's not about [i]you[/i], it's about us [i]all[/i] :)
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We're a society generally fed the idea that you are an individual if you are with the group. Our society is built upon the illusion of choice (representative democracy my ass) and pack mentality. Note the shift from the mosh pit to the rave, for instance. Once somebody like a trans person comes into the picture, pack mentality is disrupted. I'm tellin' ya, man, anarcho-communistic societies of small city-states interconnected through pacts is better than this. But I digress. My point is we are at a feud these days on whether the "all" or the "you" is what needs to be addressed in our society. So yes, it's a debate that needs to be brought up more often, but this isn't the thread for that. As for your question: I wanted to be a girl before I consciously acknowledged real gender roles. My ideas of masculinity were severely dampened at age five due to the incident I mentioned and my first real encounter with the idea of strong women was a BDSM session at age ten with a girl from my school where I was the submissive. Try to keep your mind on gender roles here and put sexuality to the side. Perhaps I've been conditioned to simply find women as more dominant. In fact, my multiple therapists, psychiatrists, and psychologists would agree. I won't claim to be a majority or minority, I'm just a candid person. Just remember [url=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+12%3A28-31&version=NIV]Mark 12:28-31[/url] and then what [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPSkyfVQ9JA]Albert Rosenfield says in Twin Peaks.[/url] We all have our own struggles in life and dealing with trans-related issues can be a tremendous struggle. Just remember that if you want to let people work as the "all" they must have an understanding of the "we". Only through empathy, understanding, and support can the "all" truly function.