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jbxにより編集済み: 7/18/2013 9:21:07 AM[quote] I'll let you know that I'm an engineering student who is quite adept in all fields of science.[/quote] [quote]I'm an engineering student[/quote] [quote]student[/quote] My favorite part of all of your arguments is the complete and total lack of real world experience other than you being a student; who makes [b]a lot[/b] of these [i]observations[/i]. Condescending nature aside, Next part: What would you put faith in then? If not science, what? [quote]set in stone when any real scientists knows that there's always a chance that you're wrong[/quote] 100% agree. Most of science is constantly testing bounds and limits of current theory and law, finding it wrong, and re-writing the books to find out more. It's a never ending game from our current standpoint.
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[quote] Most scientists would even be glad they were proven wrong by their peers since it allows them to get closer to the truth. [/quote] You are a complete and utter twit if you think that this statement is true. You clearly have much to learn, especially your pathetic and futile attempt to wave around your so called "credentials". Go home laddie.
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Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with your point that no Theory is certain (of course, making the distinction between Theory and Law), I must point a few things out. Your belief that your position as an Engineering Student (and, assumedly, a general science enthusiast) makes you more of an authority in "all fields of science" than anyone else, is false. I'm an Astrophysics Student, but that does not even make me an authority on Astrophysics, let alone "all fields of Science". Science is such an incredibly encompassing word that to have an adeptness in all possible fields is nigh upon impossible for even the most accomplished scientists, let alone an undergraduate yet to finish their first degree. Also, whilst Science as a whole likes being disproven, the individual scientists who have been disproven are generally not too happy about it. :P
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1 返信Shirleyにより編集済み: 7/18/2013 5:39:28 AMScience is used to help humans understand the universe. It doesn't have to be 100% correct and it can be implied that almost every scientific law and theory isn't. Models and theories just have to work and be consistent and they're certainly more applicable than other methodologies of comprehension. If the numbers work, then theoretically, it's reasonable. The same reason why I have more belief that the world was formed 4.5 billion years ago from a solar nebula as opposed to the bogus belief that it was magically created 5000 years ago and was geologically stable enough to support life in such a brief period of time.
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Mega Blazikenにより編集済み: 7/18/2013 8:19:09 PMJudging by the evidence in this thread, I have SCIENTIFICALLY deduced that OP is indeed a massive fag, don't bother refuting, or saying I have no proof, you have my word that I am an expert who is quite adept in all sciences,,and this thread is undeniable proof that the OP is 12 as well.
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11 通の返信U920628により編集済み: 7/18/2013 4:50:04 PMIf you really [i]just[/i] learned that the first law of all science is that we can never know anything for certain, then you should have paid closer attention in sixth grade. [i]However[/i], you cannot argue against the theories that are currently accepted as most accurate, unless you have a counter-theory. Science does not allow for "what ifs", and if you can offer no better theory, then you best just shut up, and accept that X is explicitly why Y happens, until a point at which you can dictate that Z is explicitly why Y happens. And if Z [i]does[/i] cause Y, but you cannot [i]disprove[/i] X, then you have to deal with the fact that both X and Z cause Y individually.
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1 返信Agreed. I think a lot of people on bnet also fail to realize that most scientific theories on the universe are based on certain assumptions that are no more than educated guesses.
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13 通の返信i like how some people will defend something discovered / proven by the scientific method to the death in an argument, despite the fact that the scientific method employs the most obvious logical fallcies it's absurd. imo the scientific method is a very good tool when describing the universe, but describing and explaining are two different things and i don't accept that using science will find any sufficient answers when trying to explain the universe.
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DocSmurfにより編集済み: 7/18/2013 8:36:48 AMWhy is a stupid question. When people say science asks why what they really mean is science asks how. Of course nothing is set in stone in scientific research. Probability can never 1 or 0. Your acting like a minority of GNOSTIC Atheists and some people that don't get the scientific method are actually THE MAJORITY of people on this forum. I can tell you from experience that is not true. Your just listening to the people posting the most or yelling the loudest. Neither of which is a sign of intelligence. Your also rather full of yourself. But not to encourage the hammer to swing at me again ill stop.
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8 通の返信I agree that it's kind of annoying when people (atheists mostly) start using science as a way to debunk religion when they clearly don't have a clue what they're on about. If you actually care about the topic and didn't want to look like a pseudo-intellectual you'd take time to actually grasp the concepts instead of reciting some lines on wikipedia.
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The problem simply lies in the people that must be right. This fault lies in men of all faiths, creeds, codes and colors. They are the "always rights" and the "you must be wrongers". There's simply a larger concentration of them on the Internet because of the obvious problem that the manic holds as much conversational weight as the professor on this fantastic ethos of cat pictures and meows that is the Webz.
