"The star rising up behind the planet in the last cutscene is blue( a young star ). As a star gets older it changes from blue to yellowish-orange( the sun today ).This proofs that Master Chief DID go back in time when the portal collapsed.Proof The front part of the ship with the Arbiter in it landed near Earth, so why wouldn't it be possible for the Master Chief to land by Earth only earlier in time." One major problem with this proof, from the Arc, and from the legendary cut scene you can very clearly see the Pleiades star cluster is very close by, image [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(star_cluster)]here[/url] Long story short that star grouping is a great distance from Earth, I highly doubt he made it here. However he may have ended up finding a shield world of some kind. Edit for spelling [Edited on 10.30.2007 11:21 AM PDT]

What ever happened to the theory that the end of Halo 3 was the beginning of Marathon?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PIEzoo Its his home world thats what i think[/quote] I believe in one of the books it says his home world was glassed by the Covenant.

Its his home world thats what i think

The planet is mars. [url]http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA_previews/Mars_M.jpg[/url] It is the same thermal image from the picture infestation... Give the credit to somebody else, I don't remenber is name. [url]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1722/infestmarsdo2.jpg[/url] [Edited on 10.30.2007 5:48 AM PDT]

half the ship went to earth the other half to whatever planet marathon starts out on

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sltungle No body seemed to notice my post which cleared up the whole star thing :([/quote] That's because I cleared it up a long time ago ;-) [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hydrilus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fatcatlives on [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hydrilus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fatcatlives on The planet does look forerunner, so I think it's definitely possible that it could be Earth when the forerunners were trying to build the final solution to kill the flood.[/quote] No. The Earthen sun is yellowish-orange. The sun we see come over the horizon of the planet in the cutscene is blue - a much hotter sun than Earth's sun.[/quote] Thanks even more proof to my theory. As a star gets older it changes color from blue to yellowish-orange( the sun today). The star rising up behind it is blue because it is younger than the sun today.[/quote] that's actually not an entirely accurate statement. Color is not determined by age, and not all 'young' stars are blue or even start out blue. If a sun is blue, it usually remains blue throughout the course of it's lifetime. Once there becomes a serious lack of hydrogen to burn, it will steadily cool and form into a red giant (this process of course takes thousands of millions of years in itself). The color of a star is primarily determined by MASS, and not age. In almost all cases, blue stars are much much larger than milder yellowish stars and won't begin to first grow (into a red giant) and then shrink (into a white dwarf) until there is a lack of hydrogen. It doesn't seem likely that, over the time frame between Forerunner existence and human existence, that our sun would have been blue, and suffered such a reduction in mass (due to AGE, as you say) that would cause it to appear as the yellowish star that it is today. That's just way too quick of a cool down period. And even so, the only way for it to lose that much mass would mean that it was in high gear red giant mode, shedding off its layers. As a side note, I seriously doubt Bungie considers these kind of complicated details when they make a cutscene, so for what it's worth, ANYTHING is possible here. Master Chief could be Chuck Norris, who knows.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hydrilus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fatcatlives on 1. Stars do change color with [url=http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/031006a.html]age[/url]. 2. How do you know how long the time span was between forerunner and human existence? 3. Do you work for Bungie? Didn't think so...[/quote] 1.) I never said that stars didn't change color with age, I said that color is primarily determined by the star's MASS - which does not change (in its' lifetime before red giant) to the extent that it'd have to, in order to become a G2 class star (like the Earthen Sun). MASSIVE STARS = BLUE, SMALLER STARS = YELLOWISH So what you're saying is that our Earthen Sun went from super large blue, to much smaller yellow. Which brings us to the next debate regarding the timespan between Forerunner existence and human existence... 2.) I've seen some people talk about 12,000 years going by, the halos first being fired 100,000 years before Halo 3 - point is, even if 100,000 MILLION years went by, that's still not enough time for the sun to change its' MASS, so much that it would go from straight-friggin blue (like in the cut scene) to its' current state of yellow. 3.) What kind of question is that? Are you trying to prove something? I don't think you work for Bungie either, so all you're proving here is that you don't know anything more than the average forum troll does. What you have for a theory is purely speculation that, even if Bungie DOES actually take complicated details regarding stars into account when making a cut scene, is being dis-proven because a star is simply not going to do what it would HAVE to do in order for your theory to work.[/quote] Good idea, but this thread has been done since page 3.

They didn't place creatures on the Earth, Humans were already there.... The portal to the ark was what was built by the Forerunners and hidden underneath the Sand. Er, the star part of your post, that's not true...The larger the star, the brighter the colour. Super giants are blue while normal sized stars are orangey yellow. My personal thoughts on the Legendary ending is that Master Chief and Cortana are drifting towards a Forerunner plant (my guess is their homeworld) that's somewhere in between the Ark and the Earth.

I like this theory.... But I still like mine........................... Okay so anyone notcied the name the ARK!!!! Noah's Ark saved the remaining humans from THE FLOOD (in this case it's a literal term.) The Forerunner's ARK!!!!! Saved the remaining Forerunners from THE FLOOD (in this case the game Flood.) So my theory is the Ark was used to save the Forerunner's. This planet is obviously the new Forerunner homeworld.

Very good theory. I like it, and am going with it :D * [url=http://www.iffel.de/subway/assets/images/CHOCOLATE_CHIP_COOKIE.jpg]Gives Cookie[/url] * [Edited on 10.29.2007 7:32 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IMPLAUS1BLE see THIS IS WHAT PISSES ME OFF in the last vidoc bungie said that ALL questions would be answered. but yet WE ARE STILL COMING UP WITH NEW THEORY'S? thats so stupid. bungie knows halo put them on the map, and they have trouble letting it go. so they are trying to keep it alive. bungie makes that big red vein in my neck go ba bump ba bump ba bump [/quote] Of course all questions wont be answered, the final cutscene, thats a few more q's isnt it, in my opinion, halo 4 will come, cause hey, who doesnt want more money? Quiet an easy opening in the last scene, maybe its earth? Reach maybe? Perhaps you will go back to fight along with other Spartans? Huh Huh? I know its not the best theories but im sure bungie can think up a few ya know ? =D

I think the planet is either a highly developed Forerunner planet or a precursor planet. (check the Limited or Legendary bestiarum for precursor information).

Any further explanation?

ehh.... im skeptical to that...... I don't really like the whole go back in time theory.... vote for what you think the ending is here: [url]http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=13703122&viewreplies=true[/url] (over 500 votes so far)

Ok wait. So we might have been here before the Forerunner came, but they DID somehow manipulate us genetically. In the game, Guilty Spark says himself, "You ARE Forerunner" and Gravemind calls you "The Son of my Enemy". As for the Marathon connections. Cortana =\= Durandal; Chief =\= Marathon Man; Marathon Man was 7 years old when his father died. The Chief was kidnapped for the Spartan II project before he was 7. He had no contact with his parents. [url=http://marathon.bungie.org/story/maratime.html]Timeline![/url] All of 2500 is GONE. The Halo games take place in 2552-53. In the Marathon timeline, nothing interesting happened in that time period. Gee, you'd think the near extinction of the human race would be interesting, right? [Edited on 10.29.2007 6:35 PM PDT]

Alright, I've read about all the pages and I can't help but try and disprove a couple of things here. First, the second half of the ship that was carrying master chief was cut off by the termination of the portal. And he was left right where the portal started. There is no time change, there is no transportation. He simply gets cut off. I think even in the background you actually see the remnants of the arc. Now this is the thing taht really bothers me. the arc and it's portal were outside of the milky way galaxy, in fact it was really far away. When we see the ship in the end it must be years in the future because it would've taken forever to float that far. Now I'm pretty sure that Master Chief and the character from Marathon are the same person. Thats why we can specualte that after years of floating in space master chief found his way back to earth in the distant future and was commisioned to help secure the new ship marathon. I also think that this blue planet theory is a little far fetched, just because its blue in the video doesn't meen its not our sun. It's just an effect that the camera is showing and nothing else. As for the humans and how we got here, all the theories about us being put here by forerunner is false. If you look at the ALL the terminals they go on to describe that the person making the index of all the creatures in the galaxy has discovered the human race and really likes us. She builds a portal on earth to help us escape just in case the flood were to come to us. We were here before the forerunner got to us. Another theory is that durandal from marathon could also be cortana. After all those years in deep space maybe cortana went a little crazy and that can explain why she would do what she does on marathon. Of course she must've been reprogrammed into durandal. Everyone knows now that Marathon and halo are connected, so it is natural to assume that John 117 returns to earth and becomes the main character of marathon.

There's no time travel involved, rest assured. The whole thing about Chief using Forerunner tech is just genetic manipulation by the Forerunner when they were indexing species. The Prophets KNOW that the Humans are Forerunner descendants, but consider them as a mockery of them, and therefore should be destroyed. Besides, MB wouldn't send the Chief back in time so he can get atoned for something he hasn't done yet. Dunno if this has to do with anything being discussed right now, but it could clear some stuff up. [url=http://halo3.com/comic/]The Cradle Of Life.[/url] [Edited on 10.29.2007 4:33 PM PDT]

When I saw it, the ending I mean, I sort of thought about time travel. I mean what better way to escape a parasitic death machine then to go back when it wasn't arround. I mean the portal was supposed to lead somewhere. Where, it was never said, but the Prophets believed in it for a reason. Although their religious fanaticism was out of control, what they say about myths has some relevance, "every myth has some truth to it." The portal could have lead out of range to some far off part of the universe, or it could have been meant ot send the Forerunners back in time, to Earth. GuiltySpark makes countless references to the humans, particularly Master Chief, as children of the Forerunners. Chief can activate Forerunner technology easily, something the Covenant cannot do, without being able to explain it. We've seen it many times. The Prophets seem to recognize the humans and know that only they can use certain technology, and it was said the Prophets were the only ones to have actual contact with Forerunners.(correct me if I'm wrong). Also, all of the technology is very asthetically pleasing, something that human beings are known for. When we first started to "evolve" as a species, humans picked up a habit of decorating things. Also, all the Forerunner planets share many things in common with Earth. Its possible that humans share a bloodline with the Forerunners that shot back in time. Then again, maybe the whole Forerunner/Human relationship can be mirrored after the original [i]StarGate[/i].

It is obviously the DEATH STAR your all stupid

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Halo0004 It's mars.... There was a hudge thing about this. i forget the website now.[/quote] Cortana would know if they ended up in the Sol system and last time I checked, Mars is kinda red.

Umm no nice try it wouldnt take years to find him if it was Mars.

It's mars.... There was a hudge thing about this. i forget the website now.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] stopthe bomb [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Black Arrow13 Oh by the way, this theory is totally caca. Is that the general consensus? [/quote] please explain for dumb 6 letter word people[/quote] I'm just saying that this whole theory sucks and if everyone agrees. There's already a few better threads discussing the same thing. Bungie already gave us the answers, we just have to find them. This goes all the way back to Iris and ilovebees and the other ARG goodness.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Black Arrow13 Oh by the way, this theory is totally caca. Is that the general consensus? [/quote] Yea. He came onto my thread and said that his answered more questions than mine. I was like oh ok read his had a few questions. Still hasn't answered them. For a good read and a theory that I can expand on if needed read this [url]http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=14042298&postRepeater1-p=1[/url]. Have a nice day!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fatcatlives on ***Fatcatlives on's Earthly Theory*** This idea is based on the theory that Master Chief DID go back in time when the portal collapsed on him. It could be an early version of Earth before humans were on it. When I was reading a terminal( I forget which one) the forerunners said they were putting a solution to the flood on a planet, before they were wiped out. It also says that they built the creatures a beautiful garden to prosper in( Garden of Eden ). That they were going to bury it under sand and hope that when they put creatures(humans) on Earth they will find it and use it to kill the flood. The planet does look forerunner, so I think it's definitely possible that it could be Earth when the forerunners were trying to build the final solution to kill the flood. ***More Proof*** The star rising up behind the planet in the last cutscene is blue( a young star ). As a star gets older it changes from blue to yellowish-orange( the sun today ).This proofs that Master Chief DID go back in time when the portal collapsed.[url=http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/031006a.html]Proof[/url] The front part of the ship with the Arbiter in it landed near Earth, so why wouldn't it be possible for the Master Chief to land by Earth only earlier in time. ***The Final Cutscene*** Here is a link to the final [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wa1mzhibdU]cutscene[/url] Please keep this thread alive!! Thanks.[/quote]your wrong our star the sun was never blue that only occurs when stars turn into red super giants.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Black Arrow13 Oh by the way, this theory is totally caca. Is that the general consensus? [/quote] please explain for dumb 6 letter word people